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Accused Visitation Priest Out on Bail

Fr. Marukudiyil C. Velan will not be allowed to return to Mantoloking Road church, however

 

The Brick Township priest arrested last weekend for two sex offenses is now out on bail.

Fr. Marukudiyil C. Velan, 64, had been in jail since last Saturday following his arrest on two counts of criminal sexual contact and a single count of endangering the welfare of a child. His bail had been set at $75,000 cash but later changed to $100,000 with a 10 percent bond option.

He was bailed out Thursday.

"The Diocese was informed that bail was posted for Father Christudas but we are not aware of who posted it," said Rayanne Bennett, spokeswoman for the Diocese of Trenton, referring to Velan's full name according to the diocese, Velanmarukudiyil J. Christudas.

Because the allegation against Velan involved a minor, Bennett said, he will not be permitted to reside in or on property owned by the diocese, which includes the grounds of Visitation.

Velan has responsibility "for all expenses he incurs in connection with his case."

"His religious superiors in India and Rome, who are responsible for him, have been fully briefed by the Bishop of Trenton, who is cooperating with them and civil authorities," said Bennett.

Velan, who was known as "Father Chris" and assigned to Church of the Visitation, was charged after a woman filed a report claiming Velan had innapropriate contact with her and her minor child during a visit at her home last Friday.

Authorities have not released any photos of Velan.

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MAJ

3:58 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Amazing. When a Monsignor was. Caught red handed actively surfing the internet for little boy porn while inside the diocese of Trenton NOTHING was done. It was noted as NOT his first time.
I guess you have to be in the 'IN' crowd to be assumed innocent and protected/hidden.
When the Rumson priest was caught stealing money (2003?) it was the Diocese that fed the data to the press.
Father Chris has NEVER given me reason not to trust him in ANY capacity.
He has been in my house with my wife and kids while I was at work on MANY occasions.
He is a very giving person.
I find this disturbing and wish :I knew details as I imagine this as something (hopefully) that is blown out of proportion.

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Elizabeth

5:15 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

What's disturbing is that you call a mere man "Father" when Jesus told us never to call anyone on Earth 'Father' "for you have but One Father and He is in heaven"...book of Matthew. If you won't obey Jesus, and insist on twisting His holy scriptures, to fit "another gospel", then He allowed this to happen. I hate the teachings of the Nicolaitans! Rev.2,3

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one who really knows

11:56 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

This is simply another example of what can only be called the "fundamentalist gridlock" of some Christian groups in understanding and interpreting the Scriptures: the taking of this or that biblical passage out of context and applying it to whatever you want. St. Athanasios, the 4th century patriarch of Alexandria in Egypt, was the first person in Christian history to definitively list those 27 books that we today call the New Testament. A pivotal person in the formation of the New Testament canon, St. Athanasios says that when Christians read the Bible, they are not to take passages out of context but rather to keep the "skopos", the scope or "big picture" in mind. Let's examine this question keeping the full scope - or "big picture" - of the Scriptures in mind.

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one who really knows

11:56 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

First: the question asked seems to presuppose that this passage of Scripture should be taken literally as an absolute prohibition ie, that we should call no man father. In other words, if we were to interpret Matthew 23:9 literally, no one could be called father, not even our biological fathers. Christians could not, for example, celebrate Fathers Day. Nor could George Washington be called "the father of our country." Is this what Jesus intended? Of course not! Doesn't Jesus Himself tell the rich young man to "keep the commandments" including the one to "honor your father and mother" (Matthew 19:19)? And when the Jews questioned Jesus about His teaching that He is "the bread of life," doesn't He respond to them by saying: " I am the bread of life. Your fathers (ie the ancestors of the Jewish people who took part in the Exodus from Egypt with Moses and are therefore called the "fathers" of Israel) ate the manna in the wilderness and they died" (John 6:48-49)?

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one who really knows

11:57 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Second: What would we do with the apostle Paul? When St. Paul discusses the Exodus, doesn't he - like Christ Himself - refer to the ancestors of the Israel of his day as "our fathers" (1 Corinthians 10:1)? When discussing discipline in the Christian family, doesn't he say "Fathers, do not provoke your children or they may lose heart" (Colossians 3:21).

Furthermore, with regards to spiritual fatherhood in the Christian community, to the Church in Corinth he wrote: "I do not write this to make you ashamed but to admonish you as my beloved children. For though you might have 10,000 guardians in Christ, you do not have many fathers. Indeed, in Christ Jesus I became your father through the Gospel" (1 Corinthians 4:14-15). And he describes his relationship with the Christians of the Church in Thessalonica as being "like a father with his children" (1 Thessalonians 2:11). Doesn't St. Paul, in the above passages, claim to be the spiritual father of the Corinthian and Thessalonian Churches, their father in the Gospel - Father Paul, if you will?

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one who really knows

11:57 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Third: When interpreting Matthew 23:9, it would be helpful to read the entire 23rd chapter of Matthew in order to get a proper understanding of the context of this passage. This 23rd chapter of Matthew contains the Lord's indictment of the scribes and pharisees for their hypocrisy, their focus on the externals of religion without genuine repentance and a corresponding conversion of heart. So, not only does Jesus condemn the scribes and pharisees for their use of the address "Father" in a vain and empty way, but in the very next verse says: "Nor are you to be called teachers, for you have one teacher, the Christ" (Matthew 23:10). Yet, many contemporary non-denominational TV preachers describe themselves as "Bible teachers" and no one has ever argued that the Church should not have Sunday school teachers on the basis of this passage. Indeed, Jesus Himself acknowledged Nicodemus to be a "teacher of Israel" (John 3:10) and in the Book of Acts we read that certain men in Antioch were called "teachers" (Acts 13:1), to give only two examples. Therefore, as can be clearly understood when one reads the 23rd chapter of Matthew in its entirety, Jesus takes issue not with these titles and roles in and of themselves, but rather with their self-aggrandizing abuse by the scribes and pharisees.

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one who really knows

11:58 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Fourth: The term "father" when used to address a priest is not merely an assertion of his "higher" status in the community of believers; rather, it is a term of endearment, of intimacy and love, as the apostle Paul uses it in 1 Corinthians and 1 Thessalonians, already mentioned above. In Greek, a priest in his village is addressed as "Papa" and in Russian as "Batiushka" - both being terms of endearment and intimacy. The spiritual fatherhood of the priest is intended to be a sign of the depth of intimacy and relationship which those in the life of the Church have with their leaders, a relationship based on the priest's role in our second birth, our birth in the Gospel - our baptism. Just as our biological father has an important role in our birth and continuing nurture, so the priest - as the one who baptizes us - has an important role in our second birth, our birth "from above…of water and the Spirit" (John 3:3-5).

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one who really knows

11:58 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Finally: This kind of attempt to interpret the Scriptures literally and then apply a passage taken out of context in a polemical way, usually towards Roman Catholics - but by extension often towards us as Orthodox Christians as well - is, unfortunately, all too typical of much "non-denominational" Christianity. At best, it is a misreading and misunderstanding of the Scriptures; at worst, it can be an expression of religious bigotry. Nonetheless, it remains a simple fact that the overwhelming majority of Christians in the world today (Orthodox, Roman Catholics, Anglicans, etc.) - and across the 20 centuries of Church history - have addressed and continue to address their clergy as 'Father."

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Sandra Dover

5:50 pm on Sunday, July 22, 2012

I know him, the charges are bogus!

billy jones

4:24 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

God bless father chris. He did nothing wrong, this was just a big misunderstanding.

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BytheC42

7:19 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

Really? And you know that to be a fact? Amazing!!!

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JOHNNY Done it

11:09 pm on Monday, July 23, 2012

billy is high on life , just ask her

me

4:25 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

I think it's amazing, how you can be blind. From this guy. A hug, Twizzlers. Really. Wake up, Brick. Why was he there at the house. Did the father just past away, from this boy a couple of months ago or seperated. Like happened to me, years ago. Guilty as soon to be charged.

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Sandra Dover

6:14 pm on Sunday, July 22, 2012

You really should learn how to spell separated! Sorry that you had a bad experience. But there are good priests. Father Chris is a good man. I know it.

Chief Wahoo

4:50 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

stop looking to other humans for answers and never put anyone living on a pedestal......you will avoid many many travails if you do

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Anthony

5:03 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

I love when you people say "Father Chris did nothing, he's innocent" so surely as if you were there at the house, or you are in on the investigation. It's because of that ridiculous notion that these people can do no wrong, that they get away with it for so long. You'd probably defend him over your own family, and that's sickening.

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Disgusted BIG time

11:52 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

I agree with Anthony. Just because someone does "good" for the community doesn't mean behind closed doors they continue to do "good." Most of you people making comments on here defending "Father" Chris need to find out what kind of profile a pedophile has. He fits the definition to a "T." These people make you trust & believe them. And unfortunately what better way to do this then someone as 'trustful" as a priest? Speaking as a victim of sexual molestation myself, how dare you people who call yourselves Catholics condemn this woman & her child of lying. What sane person would want to accuse someone especially a priest of this? And yes, I am Catholic myself & "Father" Chris used to come to my house & hasn't now for a couple of years because of a feeling of "uncomfortableness" with myself & my kids. And I've heard from others to the same thing. Be thankful it wasn't your child & shame on you for condemning this woman & her child & being blind. The bunch of you who call yourselves Catholics are the same ones who go to church & talk during mass, leave before mass is over so you can get out of the parking lot, get upset if someone sits in your "pew", don't give anyone a break to backup or let another out of the parking lot, what a bunch of hypocrites-----you really practice what you preach. To the victim, I pray for your family & support & commend you for having a voice & hopefully others will come out too.

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A Citizen

2:53 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

I love when you people determine someone is guilty just because of what you read. Were you there at the house to see him do anything?

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Sue Hoban Ostapowycz

9:50 am on Saturday, July 21, 2012

"these people" I am curious, if he were a Black Man insted of a Priest would you still use the term "these people"??

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Sandra Dover

6:17 pm on Sunday, July 22, 2012

Not true, there have been many priests that have done bad things children. The Catholic Church hid for many years. At least, give this Priest the benefit of a doubt!

seeking the truth

5:04 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

I was very shocked to see the article on facebook about Fr. Chris. I can only speak for myself when I say I have known him since he started at visitation years ago. He is very outgoing, social, caring, etc....... as well as priest should be. You hear about this time and time again but when it happens right in your backyard you seem to take more interest. I pray that it is not true for Fr. Chris as well as the Family that came forward. This matter will need an intense and thorough investigation and no stone should not be unturned. We to know more about the family that put these accusations out as well as Fr. Chris's background. I don't necessarily smell a set-up but perhaps some very bad and damaging miscommunication. My prayers go out to Fr. Chris the family as well as Visitation Church.

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Judy Jones

5:21 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Let's hope that every person who saw, suspected or suffered clergy sex crimes and misdeeds by Fr. Marukudiyil C. Velan, will find the courage and strength to speak up, call police, expose wrongdoing, protect others and start healing.

Keep in mind that child predators rarely have only one victim. And your silence only hurts, and by speaking up there is a chance for healing, exposing the truth, and therefore protecting others.

Judy Jones, SNAP Midwest Associate Director, USA, 636-433-2511. snapjudy@gmail.com,
(SNAP, the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests,) is the worlds oldest and largest support group for clergy abuse victims.
SNAP was founded in 1988 and has more than 12,000 members. Despite the word priest in our title, we have members who were molested by religious figures of all denominations, including nuns, rabbis, bishops, and Protestant ministers and increasingly, victims who were assaulted in a wide range of institutional settings like summer camps, athletic programs, Boy Scouts, etc.

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Jim Aymar

7:50 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Fair enough...and then in your expert opinion should no one else come forward will you at least have the decency to state that Fr. Chris maybe INNOCENT?????

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Jen

10:47 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Judy I hope you and your organization intend on publicly apologizing as passionately when Father Chris is found innocent and I invite you to our church to apologize to our parishoners for being at the head of this witch hunt that has hurt us all.

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Debra

2:15 am on Saturday, July 21, 2012

Whether he is or isn't I am glad there are organizations to help people who have been abused. How many people on this thread have been sexually abused?Ok while everyone is thinking about that,usually people aren't arrested for no good reason. Now if they are,the courts will usually handle it without making assumptions. So everyone that supports the priest,good for him. Those that don't, have a right to their opinion also. There is alot of emotion infused in these threads. So if I may,"I know for a fact that abusers come in all shapes,colors and stations in life." Now here is a surprise........{my Uncle abused me,and I will give you one guess who abused him?} Yes, it was the priest from the church! For many years he was picked up and personally chauffeured to and from church! Don't say it can't happen......men are not immune from temptation,they can be ! Only Jesus was the perfect man!

Angela Scott

5:36 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

I think we should all show our surport to father Chris this sunday by wearing a white ribbon .

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Jim Aymar

7:53 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

White ribbon for me Angela....good idea

concerned John

5:44 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Wow Judy--It seems Like you already have him convicted--I am glad we are not in the 1800 or you would have the posse already formed and all set for a sunday linching---it is great how all those who are already condeming him don't know him. THERE IS A REASON WE ARE DEFENDING HIM--we know him and know the good he has done.. Like I said earlier if more come forward I will be the 1st to say I was wrong. HOWEVER, people like yourself will always think he is guilty even if cleared--THAT IS THE SAD PART

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John Castoro

5:49 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

I bet Fr. Chris has said a Rosary or two for the woman and child and the reason he was in their home.....

Fr. Chris has my support and prayers....

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concerned John

5:52 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Hi all supporters of Father Chris please forward your positive stories and how father Chris has touch your life and others to:
Judy Jones, SNAP Midwest Associate Director, USA, 636-433-2511. snapjudy@gmail.com,
Since SHE HAS HIM GUILTY ALREADY

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Christopher Naples

8:33 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

is this not childish. is this not exactly what many are saying wait till he is proven innocent or guilty. consider yourself lucky that you are not a the one making these allegations. how would you feel if people were basically calling you a liar if you were the one assaulted. he is not guilty yet i agree . But he is not innocent either. I would also like to see a day when there is no anonymous names what does one have to hide if they know for a fact that this priest didn't do what is alleged

Jerzeyguy34

6:25 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

"Since the mid-1980s, insurance companies have offered sexual misconduct coverage as a rider on liability insurance, and their own studies indicate that Catholic churches are not higher risk than other congregations … It's been that way for decades."
USA Today, June 6,
These studies (among others) find thatQuality research data published in 2004 (the Nature and Scope Study) and 2011 (the Causes and Context Study) conducted by researchers at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice dispel many of these myths and offer state-of-the-art research findings on sexual abuse of minors in the church and throughout society.
These studies (among others) find that during the past 60 years 4 PERCENT of Catholic priests and religious brothers had credible allegations of sexual misconduct with minors in America, peaking during the 1970s with significant and dramatic declines starting to occur in the early 1980s. In fact, 94 PERCENT of known cases occurred before 1990.

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Colleen

6:58 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Chief Wahoo I couldn't agree with you more. You people who are assuming he is innocent are IGNORANT. What if this was your child? Let the courts decide what is true. In the meantime, keep the ALLEGED VICTIM in your prayers. Oh and Angela Scott & Concerned John? Keep wearing that white... if he is found guilty, you will look like fools. Why don't you support the VICTIM here?

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Anthony

7:01 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

4% of 110,000, that's 4,400. That's not enough to be a problem?

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Anthony

7:03 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

They think they are supporting the victim, Colleen. Priests can do no wrong!

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Shannon

7:38 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Generally speaking, there is something strange about this situation. People who abuse children are not into adults, and the reverse is also true. But this person, who I do not know, supposedly assaulted both an adult and a child.

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none of yobusiness

7:44 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Judy since your group is a front for a legal group why would you slander someone in print? You of all people should know how to phrase your statements.

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Christopher Naples

8:23 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

concerned John wrote " if there was any truth to this, there would be people jumping on the band wagon-He has been with the church for 12 years" my reply to this is experience. I came forward several years back and made allegations against Fr Terence Mcalinden. I was told by the diocese that I was the only person and that there has been no others. Today we now know that the diocese new of maclinden 20 plus years ago when a victim and his mom went to the bishop. the bishop offed a settlement with a gag order. we also now know that there are 2 other victims possibly 9. so give it time there may be more. I grew up in visitation parish and a lot of parishoners know me and I know them my story is known and there are hundreds and hundreds just like mine where people are going to not believe father could do such a thing. Well i will tell you that "father" is just as capable as a police officer a uncle or aunt neighbors counselors etc. the only difference is the pedestal we put priest on. when the judgement day comes these people will have to answer to them. and the supporters will have to except that priest do these things. chris

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Donna McEachran

8:26 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

I do not believe Father Chris had anything to do with. I think this woman is after money. Father Chris has been there for me several times in the past and never tried anything as crazy as this accusation. Donna

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me

8:37 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Donna, If you think she was after money why would she go to the cops., And put her self in the public eye.

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Angela Scott

9:11 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Hi Donna, please pass the word that a few of us are going to wear a white ribbon to surport father Chris.
We know he didn't do this, and by wearing a white ribbon I'm hoping to will show him that we didn't loose our faith or trust him.

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Michele Murphy

9:51 am on Saturday, July 21, 2012

@me For a lawsuit how else would you do it

jacob

8:34 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

To everyone who is so quick to assume he is innocent....just because a priest is a good man does not mean he has no demons inside like other human beings. And to those who assume he is guilty....our judicial system affords all people, even priests, a fair trial....leave it to the courts. None of us were in that home and have no right to accuse either side until the truth comes out....if it ever does.

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Christopher Naples

8:45 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

my thoughts are from experience. If a town member were to be accused the town meetings would be packed demanding the resignation of the town member. If a police officer were to be accused the town meeting would be packed demanding the police officers resignation it a teacher of school worker was to be accused the BOE meeting would be packed demanding the resignation of the staff member. but If a priest is accused there is a big rally in support. why is this? my answer is power prestige and wealth. priest have the power of the community prestige from the collar and wealth from title. I'm not saying all priest but most. when was the last time you were in a room and a priest walked in? the power is unbelievable compared to a town commissioner a police officer a teacher or your average Joe. priest are humane and very capable of doing what is alleged as well as doing so much "good" . What people need to do every nite is thank God they are not the ones that have to make these type of alligations. chris

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Christopher Naples

8:54 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

going to church with a white ribbon on is going to do what? that is an insult to wearing pink for cancer victims ya wear pink cause you know someone or support victims of cancer(ya know the truth there) we wear black for fallen Conrad(we know some one died just cause we know) etc. wearing white for a person that was alleged to sexual misconduct is an insult the all ribbon wearers and a slap in the face to all victims. what ribbon will you wear for the one making the allegation if and when he is found guilty?

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Angela Scott

9:16 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Let me ask you this Christopher, do you go to our church? do you know father Chris? do you even live in our town?
If Not......then keep your month closed!

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Angela Scott

9:17 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Let me ask you this Christopher, do you go to our church? do you know father Chris? do you even live in our town?
If Not......then keep your mouth closed

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Christopher Naples

9:53 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

I did I don't I did this is why it has gotten to much of my attention. I know many parishioners at visitation and many know me and my story. The same that are so quick to support the alleged and say its not true are the same that when its not in your home parish will condemn immediately. i am not saying he is guilty what i am saying is my experience is that due to the fact he is a priest that most parishioners will never believe its true even if there was solid evidence. i would not be posting if all the comments said let us pray for both parties and that the truth will prevail instead of comments like " its for money" "the person is lieing" I support the priest he is a good man" etc.... the comments that are most devilish are the ones that flat out call the person making the allegations a liar. Ill ask you and all the people that know him so well and saying father Chris is a holy good man this question? what would father chris tell you if you were to go to him and tell him you were sexually assaulted by another priest? and how would you feel if he said to you oh no that priest is a good holy man does nothing but good you must be mistaking! so with that said how would you feel. this is my issue with most blogging that has been going on here. what if it is true? how do you think the one making the allegations would feel being called a liar chris

Michele Murphy

9:08 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

He is and always will be a very good friend of my family. This is very tragic, and if untrue we will lose something that was truly honorable.

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Christopher Naples

9:12 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

would love to know your answer to what if it is true?

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Michele Murphy

12:18 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012

@D557 1st thought I had, just refreashing u

jacob

9:17 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

If it is true....many people have been fooled for years and have likely put their children in.harms way.

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concerned John

9:39 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

well said--He would have had many of us fooled for years--but these know nothings (Which don't know the church, Father Chris, or the accusers) have nothing better to do then to not only judge Father Chris but personally atttacking us for our beliefs.. My opinion is they have nothing better to do with there time and probably go from topic to topic , Day after Day . Month after Month, Year after year----they need a life and maybe a belief in something more.

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Christopher Naples

10:03 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

concerned john I personaly am not attacking your faith. I am not judging Father Chris and believe it or not this is like the first time ive ever blogged. talk about judging you just judged me you know nothing about me . Im sure I know alot more about the catholic faith then you think I know and My post are all about the other posters that are so quick to call the ones that made the alligations a liar. you dont know the truth you were not there what you know is what father chris only wants you to know. so if you are going to persanly attack me for your fustrations then expose yourself so we can have a serious conversation. I will never bash your faith or your church. but I will challenge your thoughts from a victims point of view.

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Denise S

11:25 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

If it is true then many of us will be devastated. Just the fact that there was an acusation at all is devastatting and unsettling. Father Chris Baptised my daughters as infants...His sermon that day was so amazing and beautiful that even my parents who are not catholic told us they were happy we joined Visitation.They were so amazed by the love in that church and the way everyone was welcome no matter what. I hope its not true, but if it is I wish peace to the victims werther it be the mother and child or Father Chris.

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Michele Murphy

4:29 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

@Chris Naples I dont believe its true...thats my answer

Sean Conneamhe

9:21 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

"Do not judge, so that you may not be judged."

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Denise S

11:28 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

continuing from my above comment:Talking about it over and over online or with others will not bring the truth out(unless you were there or are part of the investigaion) Its just very sad and upsetting. It feels like a close friend has died. The innocence of something has been lost. I will be in church on Sunday. As I sit here and write it brings tears to my eyes because in this world you just dont know anymore. I am the mother of 3 children whom I adore and love very much. Ive spoken with my oldest whos jaw hung open in disbelief when I told him what was going on, because id rather him hear it from me then read the article on the pc first or from a nieghbors child etc. His words were mom Father Chris? Hes soooo nice. No way.

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Michele Murphy

12:18 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012

@d557 o look, another thought to Chris N.

Christopher Naples

10:03 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

concerned john I personaly am not attacking your faith. I am not judging Father Chris and believe it or not this is like the first time ive ever blogged. talk about judging you just judged me you know nothing about me . Im sure I know alot more about the catholic faith then you think I know and My post are all about the other posters that are so quick to call the ones that made the alligations a liar. you dont know the truth you were not there what you know is what father chris only wants you to know. so if you are going to persanly attack me for your fustrations then expose yourself so we can have a serious conversation. I will never bash your faith or your church. but I will challenge your thoughts from a victims point of view.

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Christopher Naples

10:05 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

oh by the way you have more post then me i think. lol

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Denise S

11:30 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

Part 4 of my comment:They would probably interview the victims and Fr. and maybe parishioners, My heart is with Father and the Victim, Im torn and dont know what to believe, I feel so sad and hurt that the tears well up in my eyes when I think about this situation, If you look at it from the prospective of someone abused that feeling must be awful..or look at it from the person that is not guilty but being accused thats also awful. The entire ordeal is heartbreaking either way. I do agree that if its true a predator should always be punished and the victim helped to heal. I love God no matter what that will never ever change. This has shaken me to my core though..too close to home as some would say and no that doesnt mean its ok when people are harmed elsewhere at all! But I have mixed feelings,knowing and lovingFr as we all do we feel he didn't do it,but in this world of uncertainty we have seen things like this turn out shockingly true. I will continue to pray for everyone involved and for God to let the truth come out..those involved will need to begin a healing process as well as our church. Im just so upset reading all of these posts It has become an awful thing that has pit nieghbor against nieghbor. none of us on here to my knowledge know eachother so I think its wrong to insult eachother,we are all entitled to our beliefs and feelings. If Godforbid this is true I will be heartbroken..

Angela Scott

10:06 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Chris,
Father Chris has been at our church since 2001. He was arrest on Sat, if he did what this woman had said. Why has no one else come forward?

We can go back and forth on this.
If you knew our father Chris.....you would know he counldn't do this.

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Christopher Naples

10:31 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

i asked the same thing when i reported the man that abused me as a child. Mid 30,s i chose life and was slammed up against a brick wall when i was told by the prosecution and the diocese that i was the only one. well several years later we know know I was and I am not the only one. first reporting that we now know of was made 20 plus years ago. and since I came forward there are more that have come forward. in this case if its true and there are others it will be just a matter of time. because if some one is abused by a person that is alleged publicly it fuels the one that is quiet when they read some of these post that basically call the one making the allegations a liar money seeking anti catholic. as a victim its very painfull this is the message im trying to get across. Catholics have strong convictions and if it goes against there faith most get very defensive. this is not my intent. I am just trying to give the feelings from the abused person side. I know many at visitation and they know me. I hide nothing and I will never bash the catholic church just the men and women that are and should be held accountable for either abusing lieing about the abuse and covering up for it. chris

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Christopher Naples

10:39 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Google father terence mcalinden trenton diocese its all there... read the blog comments that people made the day I went public its all the same. read the book purple reign by bruce novozinski its all about the trenton diocese this is my experience when I needed the church most

Hometown

10:46 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Chris, this situation has obviously brought back some terrible memories for you and for that I am sorry. It's very hard to hear your views on a church that I know you were such a large part of at one time. You were a role model for younger kids within the youth group and your faith was strong. I hope you have found some peace in your own life and I pray for all victims of any kind of abuse. Hopefully, the truth will come out.

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Angela Scott

10:47 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

I'm sorry Chris that you went through something like that.
I'm not looking through rose color glasses Chris. I know that their is evil in the world.
But father Chris is a good man....I know deep down in my heart that he didn't do this.
Has anyone giving it any thought.
When he is cleared of all these charges. What will his life be like afterwards ?
He'll be marked for life!
I'm wearing my white ribbon on Sunday for father Chris.
I for one believe in him.

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Christopher Naples

11:28 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

hometown and angela thumbs up. its is sad to live with csa. or any abuse for that matter. wear your white ribbon and wear it proud just remember your concerns for the one making the allegations should be just as real for fr chris. your heart does not know the fact it can only feel for the one you are closer to. if you were the parent or the bff of the victim and didn't know fr chris you would most likely support the victim making the allegations. reverse roles purely heart driven based on your knowing someone better. If you go to church this weekend and have 100 people putting the ribbon on and the alleged victim goes to mass and see's this what is that teaching? well to me its teaching that the doors of faith(catholic faith are not open to all) now if you pushed the white ribbons for all to wear with no one sidedness and for pure praying for all involved then just then this is what the church truly is based on right?

Anthony

10:58 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

This is how these comments go..

Church goers: No way it's possible! Never in a million years! You guys are all judging before you know the facts! How dare you get your news from the news! You know nothing about that lying, money chasing accuser or Fr. Chris!

Other people: But what if it is true? Are you not condemning this woman before the facts are revealed? Isn't that a bit hypocritical?

Church Goers: Who are you calling a hippo?! Fr. Chris once helped me carry my groceries all the way from my driveway! You have no idea the wonderful things this man has done for people! You're going to burn in hell with the gays and atheists!

Other people: But what if it did happen? He IS human, after all.

Church goers: Oh My God! You are so judgmental! Stop putting down my religion! You don't know anyone in that church! You don't know Fr. Chris! You're just making blind judgements! Everyone wear your white ribbons in support of Fr. Chris!

Other people: You're not making any sense...are you saying he is perfect and incapable of any wrong-doing? We're just saying its possible that this DID happen. It isn't the first case, and it won't be the last. It's very possible that this was the first time he's done this. I don't know anyone who starts out doing something on their 100th try, could that be why nobody else has come foreward yet?

Church goers: BURN IN HELL WITH THOSE LYING, MONEY HUNGRY SINNERS! *head explodes*

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Anthony

11:06 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Angela, being accused of this won't ruin his life, even if he's guilty. I mean hell, Thomas Harkins now holds a security position with TSA in a busy part of the airport where women and children walk by every day.

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concerned John

5:44 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

see anthony that is were you are wrong---even if found innocent or let's say the charges are dropped a lot of the people here will have still and already do have him convicted--the church will move him probably back to india and his life gets turned upside down--the parish will suffer if he gets movedat his loss-----if he is guilty this does not matter--howeve if he is inocent his life will never be the same again

Christopher Naples

11:29 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

hometown and angela thumbs up. its is sad to live with csa. or any abuse for that matter. wear your white ribbon and wear it proud just remember your concerns for the one making the allegations should be just as real for fr chris. your heart does not know the fact it can only feel for the one you are closer to. if you were the parent or the bff of the victim and didn't know fr chris you would most likely support the victim making the allegations. reverse roles purely heart driven based on your knowing someone better. If you go to church this weekend and have 100 people putting the ribbon on and the alleged victim goes to mass and see's this what is that teaching? well to me its teaching that the doors of faith(catholic faith are not open to all) now if you pushed the white ribbons for all to wear with no one sidedness and for pure praying for all involved then just then this is what the church truly is based on right?

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Disgusted BIG time

11:57 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

I agree with Anthony. Just because someone does "good" for the community doesn't mean behind closed doors they continue to do "good." Most of you people making comments on here defending "Father" Chris need to find out what kind of profile a pedophile has. He fits the definition to a "T." These people make you trust & believe them. And unfortunately what better way to do this then someone as 'trustful" as a priest? Speaking as a victim of sexual molestation myself, how dare you people who call yourselves Catholics condemn this woman & her child of lying. What sane person would want to accuse someone especially a priest of this? And yes, I am Catholic myself & "Father" Chris used to come to my house & hasn't now for a couple of years because of a feeling of "uncomfortableness" with myself & my kids. And I've heard from others to the same thing. Be thankful it wasn't your child & shame on you for condemning this woman & her child & being blind. The bunch of you who call yourselves Catholics are the same ones who go to church & talk during mass, leave before mass is over so you can get out of the parking lot, get upset if someone sits in your "pew", don't give anyone a break to backup or let another out of the parking lot, what a bunch of hypocrites-----you really practice what you preach. To the victim, I pray for your family & support & commend you for having a voice & hopefully others will come out too.

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Michele Murphy

7:34 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

My question is would a pedophile also molest an adult? Most cases are always only with children, never both

Jerzeyguy34

3:54 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

 Dear Disgusted Big time, 
To answer your question why would a person do this to a priest?  Here is a book that's done research to answer your question. 
        
       "David F. Pierre’s book "Double Standard: Abuse Scandals and the Attack on the Catholic Church" This book is fast-paced, informative, and impeccably researched. The false accusations are a scandal that must be exposed. In this book it estimates of false claims made against the Church in America from credible sources range from 17 to 50 percent. Mr. Pierre also shows how accusers have retained huge monetary settlements even though their allegations later proved to be false."
I just find it strange that the people that know the man best are standing by his side with no hesitation. No one wants to be putting there name on the line for a deviant. That's a lot of faith in Father Chris. There's got to be a reason for that.

http://saintlouiscrusade.blogspot.com/2012/03/false-accusation-scandal.html?m=1

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Disgusted BIG time

3:56 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Dear Jerzeyguy34, Yes I do agree that yes unfortunately there are people who do make false accusations for money, but then there are those who do not. I do know Father Chris & like I said he has come to my house more than a few times with bagels & Tastycakes as I'm sure he's gone to others with the same. I have not let him come back to my house because of my children feeling VERY uncomfortable with him & myself over the course of more than a few years. Adults sometimes tend to overlook certain things as to where a child still has an innocence about them. If a child feels uncomfortable with someone---- anyone, 9 times out of 10 they are usually right. If this experience didn't happen to my family, I would be sticking up for Father Chris, but unfortunately like all sexual predators he puts on quite an act. Hello, wake up this is how pedophiles operate. exactly like him. Like I said, you don't know what happens behind closed doors.....Obviously if I haven't allowed him to come to my house anymore after so many years, something was not right.....

Adrienne

4:49 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

Page 1 To Concerned John & Angela Scott,
I appreciate all you wrote concerning Father Chris. I too feel dispirited . As I commented before, I find these accusations preposterous . I have been through hell & back again in my life. I also was a victim at age 12. I can honestly say with ease that Father Chris is no pedophile , rapist, molester . However, he is something very, very special. He has a special light around him. Those who know him well know what I mean.

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Adrienne

4:51 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

In 2004 , I felt like all hope was lost with all that I'd been through in my life & when i thought it couldnt get worse, My mom had acute respiratory failure. (I'm ashamed to say, but I honestly had lost my faith). I went 2 Brick Hosp., where my mom was on life support, & found Father Chris, kneeling at her bedside. ( I had heard of him from relatives who went through a similar tragedy ) Father Chris stood up & said to me," She's not here", as he pointed upward he said "She's already with God" ( he said it as if I should've known already) "She doesn't want YOU to suffer anymore. This is just her shell. Let her body go, her soul is with God". My mom passed away the next morning. At her funeral , I was hysterical, he actually stopped in midsentence while speaking & walked over to the pew, put is hands on my shoulders & said," Sshh, my child, No more suffering." I could never fully explain what I felt at this moment & explain in enough detail but from that time on , Father Chris totally restored my faith in something greater than I could ever possibly imagine. I could go on all day about the wonderful things Father Chris has done to help my daughter & I. My daughter feels heartbroken as well. We wish there was more we can do 2 help ease Father Chris's suffering. So many rely on him also & now they shall suffer as well. !

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Denise S

11:39 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

Adrienne thank you for sharing your story, as much as that hurt It was so beautiful for Father to give you those words of comfort. Thats the Father Chris we all know and love. we will just have to continue to pray that the truth no matter what it is come out and we will all have to deal with it together, We are all heartbroken

Adrienne

4:52 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

page3 AND TO all the negative souls out there, I pray that someone like Father Chris brings peace & happiness to your hearts. I can say for certain that my daughter & I also will be wearing a white ribbon on Sunday. God bless Father Chris!!

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concerned John

10:33 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

Well said Adreinne----he had the same effect on me -My mom was dying and he told me to have faith--she was in a coma in 2 day she came out of it for 3 days and we had a chance to say our good byes and talk about things she wanted. Father Chris was by her side everyday for 6 weeks she slippedback into a coma and he kept praying for her--finally one day He said it was time to let her go. The next day she Passed. I might sound angry but the people that don't know him personally does not know how he has touched so many of us. It is not about faith--religion --or that he is a priest.--It is about Father Chris the individual --There are countless stories of how he has touched people in ways no one other could including all the other priests I have come in contact with over my 50+ years-----for you those of you condeming father chris--just remember we are all Judged at the end of our lives by our actions during this life----------And if you do not believe that it is sad

Adrienne

4:53 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

To Jerzeyguy34, Thank you.

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Brick needs Help!

7:36 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT WAS THE MOTHER DOING AFTER FATHER CHRIS ASSULTED HER AND WENT TO HER DAUGHTER DID SHE SIT AND WATCH AND THEN CALLED THE POLICE???? THAT IS A ANSWER THAT HAS TO BE ANSWERED. ALSO FATHER CHRIS IS NOT SO BIG YOU ARE GOING TO TELL ME THIS WOMAN WAS NOT ABLE TO PUSH HIM OFF OF HER!!!!!!

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bobnbrick

10:49 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

@brick needs help... If you read the story, it was a 13 yr old boy who was aledgedly assualted... Read before your post...
PS... Take the cap lock off your keyboard...

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concerned John

1:17 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

I heard a rumor(don't know if true) but supposedly it was the Mom and her 13 year old son which hakes even less sense

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bobnbrick

1:24 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

@Concerned John... Yes that is what was reported in the APP.. He is alleged to have fondled the boy & touched the Womans breast...

Christie

7:59 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

I beg all of you to please remember when we go to church we are praying together as a whole for each other our loved ones our neighbors our selves who ever it may be. We are praying for the sick , the wrong , the dead, the weak , the strong , for Gods healing and so on. We are there because we are Christians who follow god not the man who tells us to but our hearts god touches weather on his own or through someone or something. We are not perfect.
I will not be wearing a white ribbon on Sunday not because I do or do not care for the victims or Father Chris but because church is a place of peace and healing. I would never want to feel unwelcome or uncomfortable at Visitation …….my church……… my place of worship.

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Bowie Thelonius

8:16 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

So many people on here with an axe to grind. You were abused by a priest? So now you're going after someone you don't know, regarding a situation you were not privy to, and are quite sure the accused, since he's a priest, is very likely guilty. And SNAP lady (BTW, that's an unfortunate name for your organization). You don't know this man, but you've pretty much got the rope and gallows ready. Why?
BTW, I'm not Catholic, don't belong to this church, and until a few days ago, never heard of Father Chris. I just hate lynch mob mentality, which seems to be rife here.

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JackiePol

8:34 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

Innocent until proven guilty all you communist Obama voters.

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JasperRam

9:38 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

The fact is that no one really 'knows' another. What goes on in private varies very significantly from the public perception for most people. Therefore, no one really knows if Father Chris is innocent or guilty - except for three people. Therefore, he is INNOCENT until he is ound otherwise.

However, I believe that people who have followed cases of clergy abuse would indicate that this case is very unusual; it does require much of our law enforcement investigators.

However, if

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Anthony

10:41 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

More of the same. Complain about everyone saying Fr. Chris is guilty before knowing the facts, and in the same breath call this woman and her child liars. You have to be pretty damn biased and ignorant to not see the stupidity and hypocricy in that.

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Denise S

11:31 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

I pologize for having a 4 part comment,THanks for listening and I hope everyone has a good day.

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Angela Scott

11:33 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

Someone had posted why we all go to church, and she's right! We're stronger in numbers when we're all they're praying togteher, that's why we go too.
Please remember why we all feel so strongly for father Chris.
I'll being wearing my white ribbon on Sunday proudly.
And I know those of you who aren't wearing one...is wearing one deep in theyre heart if they do know father Chris and the things his done... And the life's he's touched.
I believe in father Chris!

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Denise S

11:34 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

Apologize*
somehow missed that letter woops

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Sal Petoia

12:05 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

What is evident from many of these posts is that there is a lot of anti-religion, anti-Catholic bias out there. Many of you have Father Chris found guilty, convicted and hung already…. and you don't even know the man. On another post one writer suggested that "he has done this for a while". That person must be clairvoyant! From my experience at Visitation Church Father Chris has always represented himself as a kind and caring priest. Maybe he's been deceiving the parishioners all these years. And maybe not. But the bottom line is that NOBODY knows what really happened, so all should hold their collective breath and let the justice process take its course. Personally, I hope that the charges against Father Chris are unfounded. Whatever the outcome, Father Chris's life will never be the same. Nor will his accusers'.

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Anthony

1:05 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Just because someone disagrees with you, doesn't make them anti-religion or anti-Catholic. That's an assumption, and exactly what you're accusing others of doing.

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Sal Petoia

4:04 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Wrong, Anthony! Fact. Not an assumption. Check out some of the comments made after a previous article on the same subject! Then tell us they are not anti-religious or anti-Catholic.

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Elizabeth

12:59 pm on Sunday, July 22, 2012

Thank You! I'm just trying to get them to read their bibles, to set them free from spiritual bondage, but it looks like One Who Really Knows has the Catholic indoctrination pat. As for their practice of confession of sin to priests, who stand in the place of Jesus, "For there is one God, and ONE mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus"
1 Timothy 2:5

forthekids

1:07 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Deport him back to India and let him molest young boys there. Great idea with the white ribbons way to support a child molestor. Keep bringing your children to these monsters, when it happens to your family maybe then you will believe.

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Michele Murphy

6:02 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

He is american citizen.. for all those who dont know

MKC

1:14 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

I too had issues with Fr. Chris. He barged into my home without ringing the doorbell while my dying grandmother was being dressed by my mother. when asked to wait to enter the room he cursed my father off and left without ever giving her last rights. he was horrible to my family and is nasty. I have heard from multiple others once this was reported that he did the same thing to their families during their time of grief and need. He should be removed immediately from the clergy due to this latest offense...at least before he goes to jail - where he belongs. He is an animal and a loose canon and WILL hurt someone someday because of his mental illness.

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bobnbrick

1:29 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

@MKC ... Well you are in the minority on this website... A Majority of the posting are overwelmingly positive about peoples interaction with Fr. Chris. I am a parishoner @Visitation but rarely attend mass there, Fr Chris is one of the reasons, he may be a wonderful caring man but I can't understand a word he sez...

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Angela Scott

2:20 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

The bottom line everyone ...............
It doesn't matter if some of us like father chris or if some of us don't.
What it really comes down too.....Is he the kind of man who could do such a thing?
The answer is NO!

I don't know anything about this lady or her son, I never once called them a liar....
I think we all just need to wait until the investigation is done. Until then...stop throwing stones at one another. Because lets face it. We all have things to hind, we all hurt people in our lifes one way or another.
Lets not turn on each other too!

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bths06

3:20 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Father Chris would be the last one I would suspect to do something like this, but would not put it past the other two priests at visitation especially the pastor. He just gets under my skin.

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Justice For All

4:37 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

For all those people who said Father Chris is sucha "good man" you have no idea what you're actually seeing. I'm pretty sure everyone here has heard of Ted Bundy? Famous rapist, serial killer of the 1970s. According to his records Bundy was very attractive, charming and charismatic towards his female victims thus then gaining their trust and then making his move on them. I'm not saying Father Chris is a serial killer or a rapist for that matter but my point here is just like Ted Bundy, its not hard to "put on an act" to gain peoples trust. I've know father Chris since I made my communion at Visitation Church and I must say at a point in my life he was a very nice caring man I don't deny that. But after things happened its hard to believe that someone you've known and trusted your entire life made you feel beyond uncomfortable. A priest is someone in the community you're supposed to trust just like a cop or a firefighter. We all hear these stories from time to time how that there's bad people in the world today and it could be anyone for all we know. Firstly, has anyone ever looked at the definition of a pedophile or molester? I go to college for criminal justice and i just don't pay $30,000 a year to learn bullshit. Honestly people who are for him need to stop and think about what would you do if this happened to you? If he came to your house and hurt you or your children... I pray for the family out there that came forward and I respect you.

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A Citizen

11:43 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Justice, you need a refund on your $30,000. Any criminal justice major should know that everyone is innocent until proven guilty. If you weren't taught or believe that then you will be judged yourself when you go into the law enforcement field. Never assume guilt.

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Disgusted BIG time

12:08 am on Saturday, July 21, 2012

@ Citizen obviously you're reading in between the lines of Justice's post. First no where in the post does it say he's guilty & secondly Justice states that they knew Father Chris & obviously has had some type of bad experience that made Justice feel uncomfortable in his presence to the point where there's no trust. And when you read a book do you read the whole book or just what you want to read? You seem to have made an assumption about Justice without reading or actually understanding the entire post..... So who would be assuming now?

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Justice For All

12:19 am on Saturday, July 21, 2012

Not once in my paragraph did I say he is guilty. And any person with common sense should know that. And also ask yourself this Citizen, why was he arrested if it was just an accusation? Obviously, something is not right. If that was the case any person making an accusation against anyone would be arrested. That's why there's things called "investigations" to find evidence to arrest him. He made that lady feel very uncomfortable to the point where she had to come forward and not only was it this woman but her child as well were involved in the situation. This is why I no longer have contact with him.

Justice For All

4:43 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

And what about what's happening at Penn State right now? How is that any different from here at Visitation Church. Everyone needs "to wake up" and "smell the coffee" Brick. Just because Brick is and has been like one of the top 10 safest cities in America doesn't mean anything. Things still happen. Not everything is as it seems. Just because this didn't happen to you doesn't mean the lady and her child are lying or that its just a false accusation .

http://crime.about.com/od/serial/p/tedbundy.htm
http://crime.about.com/od/sex/p/pedophile.htm

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concerned John

5:55 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

if there is one thing in criminal Justice they should teach you
is innocent until proven guilty--

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Disgusted BIG time

10:34 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

So "concerned John" you have a PHD? That's great, but doesn't make you better or smarter than anyone else. If you actually read the entire post by Justice for All, they knew Father Chris for years & became uncomfortable with him. So whatever type of uncomfortable experience they had with him leads them to believe this man is not what he sets out to be. I understand your believing in him, obviously you haven't had a bad or uncomfortable experience with him. I believed in him too until my kids told me they felt uncomfortable with him & he was doing things by my house that priests or anyone else for that matter shouldn't be doing, which is why the strings were cut from him with my family. And yes, I should've spoke up at the time myself, but felt like most victims "Who will believe me, especially with a priest that is so well liked?" So I feel for this woman & her child. And whatever you'd like to call him---pedophile, sexual predator, does it really matter? What he is accused of doing is sick & disgusting. The point is like someone else posted, he is a wolf in sheeps clothing. And you just don't arrest someone on an accusation, there had to be more to it than that. I'm just saying that people aren't always what they seem, especially these days. And I would've wished that something like this wouldn't have happened here, but am not surprised with Father Chris.

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Justice For All

12:32 am on Saturday, July 21, 2012

@ Concerned John: How intelligent of you to let me know that you have a PHD? And I'm not becoming a police officer. Criminal Justice isn't just about studying to become a cop. There's so many fields of study for Criminal Justice just like there is for medicine, and of course with you having a PHD I would have thought you knew that already.

Michele Murphy

4:49 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Your actually comparing Fr. Chris to Ted Bundy?? I know the definition pedophile is a person who is sexually attracted to children, a molestor is "subject to unwanted sexual activity". Does not mean he is guilty.

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Disgusted BIG time

11:04 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

@Michele, I believe the reference was compared to the fact that Bundy was well liked, charismatic, etc. You cannot judge a book always by the cover. And does it really matter in the end what name you put to him? Pedophile, sexual molestor, what he's accused of is sick & disgusting. And I'm sure there are sickos in this world that do go after kids & adults... Sorry to say

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Michele Murphy

10:00 am on Saturday, July 21, 2012

@DBT yes i reread it and i see the comparison he was trying to make. Like so many I wss to quick to judge.

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Disgusted BIG time

3:56 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

@ Michele, I so understand where you're coming from I respect that, just like others who have come to his defense. And I'm glad he is the man to you all that he used to be with my family, but unfortunately there was a different side to him that came out with us over the years. And believe me I was speechless & would start to make excuses to myself & my kids to justify things that occurred. It is very hard to believe, but I've been there. Maybe after time it could've happened to your family too.... that no one knows & I hope no one will ever have to find out. So I did what I had to do & protect my kids & cut ties with him. So I've seen "both " sides to him---- thank God for you & your family you haven't.

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Michele Murphy

12:22 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012

@d5557 O look another thought

me

5:38 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

How about, Pastor Slegal, From St Thomas Luthern Church.
He, gave me a ride on his motercycle, And a ride on his boat & a sleep over on his boat. But no twizzleers GET IT.

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me

5:39 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Chris Naples,

We lived on the same block I fell your pain.

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me

5:42 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Not Fr. Chris, He is a saint. NOT

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Angela Scott

6:18 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

QUESTION:
A pedophile likes children and only children.....I've never heard of one liking adults and children.
Has anyone here?
Once again....once father Chris is clear of these charges.....he'll never be the same.
I've made 200 white ribbons if anyone wants to wear them this Sunday to surport father Chris. I'll leave them hear the doors as you walk in.

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Michele Murphy

7:35 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

I keep asking the same thing. Pedophiles are only interested in children, not adults

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Elizabeth

2:23 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012

Angela, Grow Up! A sexual deviant is either demonic or mental illness. When did people add new adjectives, when new deviations were revealed? You are presently spiritually abused, and in spiritual adultery, because you don't know the truth of God's word, and have been systematically brainwashed, like most religious institutions. What "religion" was Jesus Christ? Jesus' half brother James was in charge of His church first, not Peter. Wear all the white ribbons you want, but remember Jesus will tell many who come to Him, "Depart from me you workers of iniquity, I never knew you". It doesn't matter if you know a "priest", which were only Old Testament Levitical priests, who entered the Holy of Holies once a year, and if they had sinned they would literally die, like Ananias and Sapphira when they lied to The Holy Spirit. It is sad to see so many of the sheep following blindly and willfully so, "bewitched" like the foolish Galatians, under a spirit of witchcraft, when all you need is to "study to show yourselves approved" like the Bereans. This man should never be the same because he is a wolf in sheep's clothing, deceiving with false doctrine. The Holy Spirit of God is revealing Truth to those who belong to Him.

Angela Scott

6:19 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Leave them by the doors as you walk in...

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MILITANT ANTI-THEIST

7:13 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Who doesn't want to wear the ribbon' ?
Anybody with common sense....

I'm going to be across from the church on Sunday holding up an enormous sign that says "FRY FATHER CHRIS"

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You people are insane, get back on the spaceship.

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Michele Murphy

7:37 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Do you mean your spaceship?

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MILITANT ANTI-THEIST

7:46 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Michele... LAME.
Look to god to give you some creative verbal guidance because you sure need some

MILITANT ANTI-THEIST

7:35 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

If this Lil' perv was looking for some lovin' why didn't he just sign up for christian mingle .com ?

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concerned John

8:29 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Why don't you go back to playing you cut and slash video games Militant Anti theist. Your probably a 16 year old punk loner. Maybe police should be watching you

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MILITANT ANTI-THEIST

8:42 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

You thumpers are so easy to torque up. It's like teasing a small animal.

The police should be watching me? Nope, they should be watching your kinky perverted so called priest.

How could god let another one of his salesmen (your priest) touch another young boy? Gotta make ya wonder.....

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concerned John

9:26 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

I'm sure you make your parents proud

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MILITANT ANTI-THEIST

9:42 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

concerned john, spoken like a true catholic.... You've resorted to name calling.

May the imaginary, invisible man in the sky have mercy on your imaginary, invisible soul.

Like I said, your tiny brain is like a toy for me to play with.

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Richie Rich

7:56 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Sounds like a made up story to me.

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Angela Scott

8:15 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Militant.....
You don't sound like a very nice man.
I' ll look forward to seeing you on Sunday.
I'm a little lady....but I not afraid of your threat!

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concerned John

8:33 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Sorry I lowered myself to militants level. I was being very judgmental. But my guess is probably right on in his case. I did say I was done but could not help myself

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Angela Scott

8:39 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

John,
You spoke like a gentlemen.

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Angela Scott

9:04 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

D5557,
The white ribbon stands for purity....that's what our church and father Chris means to us.

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JOHNNY Done it

9:42 am on Saturday, July 21, 2012

At this point I would not have any of my familiy members with him alone ,This are pretty strong charges Need to remove the mentality it cant happen here..I am sure he was a nice person.. People do crack...

Michele Murphy

9:41 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

That's creative verbal guidance Militant?? You do not sound very nice at all

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concerned John

11:49 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

This is it for me --no more comments from me
I am done here for a while cannot take the ingnorance of some people.comparing this to Ted Bundy and Sandusky
Right along, I have said I would be the 1st person to come on here and admit I am wrong if more people come forward or he is found guilty. Is there a possibility he did it highly unlikely. THERE ARE TO MANY PEOPLE ON THIS SITE ARE HERE FOR THERE OWN AGENDA"S that has nothing to do with this case---
LET ME ASK YOU THIS and LET'S LEAVE RELIGION OUT OF IT
if this was your best friend, Brother, Father,Son, Family, The nieghbor you live next door to you for the past 12 years that comes over your house weekly, people you know at work for years--------do you automatically find them guilty or do you stand by them?? do you automactically side with the accurser or do you believe in you family member or friend? Those of us supporting Father Chris will stand by him until there is evidence to prove he is guilty--again take the same facts in this case and apply it to someone you trust and has touched your life and let's see if you woulsd say the same--To date no one else has come forward--Remember we are all judged when we die for our actions on earth--My Prayers and My support goes to Father Chris

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A Citizen

12:15 am on Saturday, July 21, 2012

I agree. Leave religion out of it. For those that believe in God because of the Bible might as well believe in Spiderman because of comic books. However, I do know Father Chris. If he is guilt he should be punished (which I don't think he is, just my opinion). If he isn't, he is owed a huge apology from the church that stripped him of his faculties, law enforcement officials, and the community that is against him. There are no winners in this battle.

A Citizen

12:27 am on Saturday, July 21, 2012

@Disgusted Big Time - I did read the entire post several times. To compare someone to Ted Bundy pretty much accuses him of guilt, maybe I'm wrong. I actually agree with some things you said and disagree with some also. My only point is let the justice system sort it out. If he is guilty he will pay the price. I happen to know him and never had a bad feeling about him. That is my opinion and thankfully we live in a country that I can express that opinion as can you. And like I said in my last post, I am not a church goer. I think if you believe in God because of the Bible you might as well believe Spiderman because of comic books.

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A Citizen

12:33 am on Saturday, July 21, 2012

@ Justice for all - As a criminal justice major you might know that some times arrests have to made. Are you aware that if a wife or husband calls the police and claims he or she was abused the police have to arrest the spouse and remove them from the scene? Just based on an accusation. She was "assaulted" on Friday and he was arrested on Saturday. How much investigating could have been done in a day?

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RoseMarie Sansone

8:20 am on Saturday, July 21, 2012

I've posted my thoughts and, yes, I am a Father Chris supporter regardless of what anyone thinks. I have been a paralegal for over 20 years and I truly believe in "innocent until proven guilty." That being said, I live extremely close to Visitation. My daughter loves Father Chris and I have shielded her from all of this; if ANYONE is outside of MY house today during the late afternoon mass, or tomorrow morning during any of the masses, with signs, turning this into a fiasco, I will not hesitate to call the police.

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RoseMarie Sansone

9:07 am on Saturday, July 21, 2012

D5557, it was not a "display" of what I do for a living nor was it a justification of any sort...I have worked in many different areas of the law - including criminal law - for a very long time, and it is MY belief that people are innocent until proven guilty. Too bad there are others who don't share this view. In any event, my family and I are moving out of state in a few days and my daughter is young; she has been involved in Visitation children's choir, CCD, she just made her communion, and she adores Father Chris. She doesn't need to leave New Jersey with this situation on her mind.

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bths06

9:34 am on Saturday, July 21, 2012

@Disgusted-
Did you report what happened to the police since this story has come out? I would think that they would want to know of anything of that nature to build upon. I just think you should report it if it truly did happen.

I am always skeptical of posts by the 'bloggers' on here because you never know what is true or what is just made up. Especially with people making up whatever screen name they want and others having multiple names. So all I am saying is if it is true go to the police so they know and same should go to the person you talked about in your previous post.

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Disgusted BIG time

3:14 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

@bths06, Yes I have reported it because this woman & her child are in the same boat I could've been in with my kids if I had said something years ago. I don't know what happened to the victims if it's true or not, but experiences that I've had with him myself & my kids aren't far fetched. As I've heard from another woman with a child the same type of behaviors from him a month or so even before this happened. So it's not just me, I only hope she reads this & reports it too. Just like all who stand & defend him as one, so should the people who've had bad experiences with him----- report it. If he is found not guilty, as time goes on these type of people get bolder & will do something worse than what they've already done because they feel they've gotten away with it. And I am not in it for nothing else, just that this shouldn't happen to anyone else.......

JOHNNY Done it

9:36 am on Saturday, July 21, 2012

AS person commented above the church goers & other people have there stand on this ..First as we all know issues with priests did not start yesterday, That is why the catholic church is paying out all these claims .We all like to think it cannot happen here...Yes you are innocennt till proven guilty Some say he was acting strange recently ..He needs to seperate himself from the church till this is over & not come in contact with people associated with the church...to seperate the church from him...

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helping the ignorant

2:43 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

Just because you, (the followers of "father" chris) did not get the experience of uncomfortableness around him, doesn't mean that he still isn't a sexual assaulter. And how dare ALL of you who are SUPPORTING him say that these stories of people who had bad feelings with him say they are wrong. You weren't there , were you? If you WERE and you have SEEN it with your OWN eyes , and it is false, by all means, go ahead and prove them wrong. That's only if YOU have SEEN it. On the other hand how do you not know if half of these people writing on here were victims of "father" chris but just cannot come out at the moment to the public, but have gotten help? Do you even know how offended they can be by reading , "they are liars" , "let the public find out who these people are" , "these people are so ignorant", & ect. by God if this man is proven guilty, i hope all of you who said THE VICTIMS were ignorant , apologize . Because , you my fellow "catholics" (or if you should even be calling yourselves that) are the ignorant ones. How could you sit here behind a SCREEN and be so crude to the people who know the REAL "father" chris, the sexual assaulter one. You sit here and be so utterly rude to them because they know the truth? I am a fellow catholic myself , but all of you "catholics" these days sicken me to my stomach. To the ones who believe he is guilty along with me, don't listen to the ones who are blinded by this monster society calls a "holy man". You know the truth.

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Sal Petoia

4:14 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

HTI: A lot of strong language in your comments. As a parishioner, I have never observed anything that would make me suspicious of Father Chris. Certainly, it is possible that he committed the reported acts, but my hope is that he didn't. I believe many who support him feel the same way and find the accusation unbelievable. That doesn't necessarily mean that he is innocent of the charge, but only that the nature of the alleged crime is so out of character with what most know about the man that it is hard to believe. You, on the other hand, seem so certain that this priest is a sexual assaulter and a "monster", that it seems apparent you have information many do not have. If so, I hope you have the courage of your convictions to contact the prosecutor's office to give testimony to the grand jury so that you can help get this "monster" priest off the streets. By the way, you will need to use your real name and not hide behind your "helping the ignorant" pseudonym. You will either be a "hero" if your help gets Father Chris convicted, or the possible subject of a libel suit if Father Chris is exonerated. Ready to step up to the plate?

concerned John

4:23 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

. Most of Father Chis supporters including myself are saying we hope to God it is not true--and not even mentioning the accursers negitively--unfortunetly you and the rest do not know what there situation is--would you feel the same way if this family has 10 law suits in there past?
you need to reread most of the post and answer this question leaving religion out of it,
I have posted this question before and none of the religion bashers have responded and let see what your answer is
if this was your best friend, Brother, Father,Son, Family, The nieghbor you live next door to you for the past 12 years that comes over your house weekly, people you know at work for years--------do you automatically find them guilty or do you stand by them?? do you automactically side with the accurser or do you believe in you family member or friend?
let's see your answer or are you the ignorate one and a Hypocrite like so many others on this site on both sides. You already have him guilty-

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concerned John

4:51 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

The ignorance of a few that make this about religion are fools on both sides--If I did not know Father Chris as a Individual --I would not be here defending him, a matter of fact if it was any other priest in the area I would not be here espressing my feelings as I do not know them personally---so those of you who say he is guility or innocent without knowing him as a person are truly ignorant. Also those of you who are here a bash religion you are fools who are trying to push your agenda to the wrong audience------Peace and Love
by the way D5557 I know I sound angry --I will save you the time to post your feeling about me which doesn't matter to be in the least

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Cori Welch-Cusano

5:57 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

All of you being nasty to one and other isn't going to help or hurt Father Chris. What you all believe or do not believe really isn't proof of anything. Father Chris is family to most of us. Father Chris has a very good lawyer and is in good spirits. If he is innocent (which I strongly believe he is) then he will be proven so. If he's not then they'll prove it. With all that said, Father Chris asked that we pray for the family who accused him. He believes that they need out prayers even more so than he does.

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Angela Scott

6:29 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

Hi Cori,
Thank you for the update on father Chris, I was worried about how he was doing.
I don't think he remembers all of our names, but please tell him Angela Scott and my daughter says hello and that we've made 200 white ribbon to take into church tomorrow to support him.

helping the ignorant

11:07 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

@Sal Thanks I have already stepped up to the plate & with me stepping up to the plate you think I'm stupid enough to put my real name up here when this is under investigation? And with the way some people on here are so fanatical with Fr. Chris I would be endangering my family. You already see how some people are bashing this woman. Don't you think if they knew her name or where she lived she would be safe? I would think otherwise.....

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Michele Murphy

9:20 am on Sunday, July 22, 2012

@HTI so that you means you also reported Fr. Chris? You also came forward is that what stepping up to the plate means? Just clarifying.

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Disgusted BIG time

6:40 pm on Monday, July 23, 2012

@Michele I would say so that HTI has. Why do people have to put it out so clearly & point blank say that they have reported him? Good for them they did. Why do people have to know? So everyone who believes he's innocent can bash them too? Just wondering....

JOHNNY Done it

11:57 pm on Sunday, July 22, 2012

For anyone that is in disbelief Lives in a bubble This not the first preist to be charged THERE has been multiple claims paid out by the diocese . I hope its not true.. But, getting charge for these crimes ,sufficient evidence was there..

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Sue

8:04 am on Monday, July 23, 2012

I believe you are innocent until proven guilty. I pray for the priest and for the family.

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JOHNNY Done it

11:06 pm on Monday, July 23, 2012

Today in the news a priest got 7 years in prison for an assualt I am sure the people of that church probably said the something ,"it cant be true"

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Dee1974

8:05 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012

I do know ive seen him at my local gym, aside from seeing him at church. I dont want to see anyone charged that doesnt deserve it, but on the other hand ive seen him look at woman at the gym in inappropriate places instead of there faces. I hope for the sake of the church this insnt true.....sad!

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Angela Scott

6:49 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012

You are such an ASSHOLE......

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Lanoka Lou

8:08 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012

Charles Mansion had this kind of influence also!

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concerned John

9:12 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012

Hey-I never said not him --I said I believe in him just as I would anyone else who I trusted--Friend, Family member, co worker or Priest. Sorry about what happened to you but before you throw a stone maybe you need to read all the posts and then see who is clueless.---question to you If this was a good friend of yours that you trust and stood by you for weeks while your Mother was dying would you turn your back on them ? especially when you know nothing about the accuser--To many people here make it about religion--I am a catholic and Proud of it--there is sickness all around us and I am hoping it isn't true but to your point there are alot of clueless people on this board who think they have all the answers and too much time on there hands

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concerned John

11:41 am on Sunday, July 29, 2012

Hum, You seem so angry D5557--Micelle hit it right on ,you are trying to bully people on this site to your view--no one else is doing that--IF anyone disagrees they can go back and read all the posts.
a few points
* anyone that uses words like Bucko,suck, Duh and cannot write a complete sentence without mis-spelled words should not comment on others grammer skills *
*2 if I was wrong with what I said you probably were, I am sorry, I rethought that and I think you may be a punk kid who thinks he has all of the answers on life--by the way I am well versed in the law and when you are stating an opinion and not satating it as fact--that is Free speech in this country
*I never bashed the victims and never said it could not be true--only said I am standing behind Father Chris until proven Guilty---where as you already have name called and convicted Father Chris
* I never said I was a great catholic-and I would not waste my time praying for you but do pray for the victims and father Chris,My Family and for important issues in the world everyday
I am done with you --you are such a Hypocrite (In my Opinion) it is ridiculous--If anyone disagrees with that I challenge them to READ ALL THE POSTS FROM THE BEGINING--I AM NO LONGER LOWERING MY INTELLIGENCE LEVEL TO YOURS

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concerned John

11:50 am on Sunday, July 29, 2012

one last thing D5557 the spelling is enforcement not inforcement since you are pointing out everyones grammar issues

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Angela Scott

11:53 am on Sunday, July 29, 2012

Concerned John,
I don't know you... but I like you. Your awesome!
Angela : )

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concerned John

12:06 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012

thanks Angela--everyone is entitled to an opinion but someone that thinks thier opinion is the only one that matters and comments on everyones posts needs to be called out for what they are---

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Michele Murphy

12:33 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012

@D557 ok so here is my thought I believe in Father Chris until otherwise proven untrue I am catholic, and go to church everyweek. I have also taken the time to point out some of your harrasement towards other read back.

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Michele Murphy

7:48 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012

I think D5557 is gone.....Anyway hope our next news will finally give us all some rest.

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concerned John

11:05 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012

wow He even deleted all his posts--I will miss him---NOT

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concerned John

9:37 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012

Whatever--that is why you erased all your posts--nice try, because if you left them up the Truth was there --this post once again shows the hypocrite you are

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Michele Murphy

2:19 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012

Yes he sent 2 different ones, they are still in my trash. Crazy

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Michele Murphy

8:55 am on Tuesday, August 14, 2012

@D5557 I have recently seen you commenting on other articles on Brick Patch. For example the article about the animal being transferred so they are neurt. you went off on a couple for thier views. So why dont you just back off. This page has been quite. I wont even respond to your questions anymore you basically badger every person who has any kind of comment on this site. To me its not worth my time. I am sure you will say now o look you have no opinion or cant even say if she will go to his trial, guess i will keep you guessing

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concerned John

9:59 am on Tuesday, August 14, 2012

Michelle why bother this person has to much time on thier time. He comments on just aboit every article on the patch and tries to control this site. we exposed him fot what he is

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bths06

12:54 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

Dan- How about an update on this story. Word around the parish today was that the person that bought up the charges had them dropped.

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Michele Murphy

8:29 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

I did not hear this. Hopefuly its true:)

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Angela Scott

8:43 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

I hope this is true and father Chris comes back.

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