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Point Beach Council Turns Down Snooki and JWoww

Council may consider charging for film permits

 

The Point Beach Council agreed unanimously on Tuesday night to not allow MTV to film the "Snooki and Jwoww" reality show on public property in town.

Through the brief discussion about the MTV request for a permit to start shooting the two "stars" going out to local night spots, starting Thursday, Mayor Vincent Barrella said perhaps the council should think about charging for film permits. They are now free, said Point Beach Business Administrator Chris Riehl.

He noted that the town charges the American Cancer Society to conduct a fundraiser on the boardwalk annually.

"And yet, MTV would get a free pass," Barrella noted, adding the council should think about developing a fee for film permits.

That prompted mention of the town's special event fees, which has been a controversial issue, especially regarding Jenkinson's not having paid special event fees.

Municipal Attorney Sean Gertner said there are now separate ordinances for public assembly and special events, but there should be one ordinance for both.

Barrella and some council members have said they don't think the Snooki and JWoww show will help improve the town's image. Kristine Tooker was the only council member absent, but she said in an email on Monday that she is against MTV filming the show in town.

Barrella noted that if MTV or any other outlet wants to film inside a home or business, the town has no say.

Related Topics: Council, Film, Filming, Jersey Shore, Jwoww, MTV, Mayor, Point Beach, Point Pleasant Beach, and Snooki

Part Timer

10:06 pm on Tuesday, August 7, 2012

The one part that scares me...."Barrella noted that if MTV or any other outlet wants to film inside a home or business, the town has no say".
Lets see how the club owners respond...

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dorym

8:45 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Please God, make them go away.

Michelle

10:53 pm on Tuesday, August 7, 2012

I'm so over the Jersey Shore

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Rick

7:21 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Nice job Council. Maybe Snooki can have someone punch her in the face in some other town. After all. Wasn't that her claim to fame?
One thing that annoys me, though. How can the Mayor even suggest that maybe, we can charge MTV a fee! Isn't that selling out? In other words, it would be acceptable to have them on town property, if they paid up. Correct me if that's not what I'm hearing.

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Dave

8:18 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

The Mayor made that suggestion because he wants to perpetuate the myth that PPB needs to get more dollars from "alternative revenue sources." That is what his attempt to extort money from the bars was all about. You would think the Beach has the highest taxes in the County, but even after this Mayor’s huge 2012 tax increase the taxes in PPB are still lower than its neighbors----myth making motivated by political agenda------- despicable.

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somebody

8:29 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

HAHAHAHA, You are too funny... Who is despicable? Who has a political agenda?

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Dave

9:08 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Who has a political agends? I don't know, maybe "somebody" who thinks Mayer and Ried voted no because of elections? Just saying........

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somebody

11:30 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Dave, Correct...I am "somebody" Who thinks that is exactly what they did! They all have a political agenda... Reid being the most despicable of them all.

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Dave

4:33 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Somebody, anybody, who believes a Councilman like Stephen Reid would have voted for Snookie and Jwow, except for their desire to be elected, especially when raising a young daughter in town, is a blind Barrella shill

but we already knew that didn't we?

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ILOVEMAYORBARRELLA

7:52 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Dave, Are we talking about the same Councilmen Stephen Reid who just went against the school and accused them unfairly. I guess you missed the article in the Ocean Star. Yes, I do,,, It is all about the desire to get elected, more than the air he breathes. Do you really think Stephen Reid cares about this town? I don't! I would not drag or use his daughter in this political debate.

Common Sense for the Beach

8:49 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

"Municipal Attorney Sean Gertner said there are now separate ordinances for public assembly and special events, but there should be one ordinance for both."

After the way this moron screwed up the bar closing ordinance by putting the closing and the pay to stay open in one ordinance and then splitting into two when the bar owners showed him it was illegal to have them together which led to the ABC stay and lots of lawsuit dollars for him why would anybody pay any attention to his bad advice? Why does he still have a job? I know Mayor's hire their friends, but Doesn't the Mayor have any lawyer friends who actully know the law?

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somebody

2:27 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Really? I would not be calling someone else a moron. Did you go to Law School? Common sense, What is your profession? The ABC gave them a temporary stay. I would watch what you say. The last time someone had something to say about Sean Gertner being a loser lawyer and that John Jackson hands down was a better lawyer. You see, John Jackson loss to Gertner twice now.

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Common Sense for the Beach

4:43 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Yes REALLY. Both decisions are just temporary and a final decision has not been made in any of the two cases. But there is simply no denying that the idiotic decision to put the bar closings and the pay to stay open in one ordinance was wrong, legally, and is what allowed the ABC to grant the stay, is there?

Pat

9:29 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

It is a shame the SSH doesn't have enough guts to say go away.

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somebody

11:39 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Because SSH loss their family reputation a long time ago... They did not have the courage to stop it way back when they should have. Something that some in Point Beach is preventing from happening here. Unfortunately some are to stupid to realize this and how quickly a town can turn just as SSH. It was also considered a nice beach town too at one time.

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Common Sense for the Beach

4:49 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

somebody is obviously new in town. SSH never had a faimly reputation to lose, they were always the party town, since long before anyone alive today was born.

Opinionated

10:15 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

It's nice to see your council all agreeing on something. Even if it's a no-brainer. Amusing to how your mayor is open to the idea though, for a "fee". At least he's consistent. Maybe MTV could make a deal with your BW and they could shut down the beach for a day, like Obama did last week in CT for his fundraiser. Perhaps even a whole weekend. Now that would send a message to your unhappy campers.

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somebody

11:57 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

If the BW did as you suggested their would be problems for them. The only message the BW would be sending would only prove even more that the BW are the ones who bring in and cause all the problems for the town. They would clearly not be considered a family tourist town as they like to push and portray.

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Raven

1:36 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Im glad they said no. I know if they came to georgia id hope our city counsel would say no.

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Pat

4:53 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

I guess you are are a newbie since I'm still alive and I remember when SSH was a nice town.

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A Resident

10:55 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

I'm early 50's. Started going to Seaside over 30 years ago. It was a party town then...and it's worse of a party town now. Have not heard of anyone who actually knew SS refer to it as a family town.......ever.

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somebody

11:11 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Yes, some did and you are insulting those who were born and raised there. It was a nice town at one time and a lot of families went there. Yes at night it became a party town as point beach has become. SSH just progressively turned for the worse over the years. It is the towns fault, they let them. Something I am hoping that the town of PPB will not let that happen.

Common Sense for the Beach

4:59 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Pat. What year is it that you have imagined SSH was a nice famly town?

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Pat

5:27 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Apparently you don't have common sense and just want ot put people down who disagree.

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ILOVEMAYORBARRELLA

7:59 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Common Nonsense, SSH was a nice family town at one time...Maybe you are to young to remember. It was always considered a little more of a party town than PB. Sure kids went down after the prom, more bars and clubs back then,,,it is nothing how it has become in the last 20 years....The town decided to put tourists before the residents and they did not have anyone in the town that was willing to fight to keep the town tamed so it would not get so out of control as it is now. I remember going their at a very young age, in my teens...I can tell you first hand it is nothing like it has become now. Pat,,,I agree this is how the bw shlls get if you don't agree with them.

somebody

11:24 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

BTW, A friend of mine happened to come visit me today. He took his two teenagers to SSH today. That is where his kids wanted to go. He said it was not real crazy busy. There was businesses not just out of control crowds. There was more families than ever. It was during the day some I am sure it might change over to the partying crowd. He was shocked that for August it was not as busy as he remembered back when he was going there. It was definitely a different era and everything has changed. He said there was so many open available rentals too. He was staying on the water at his friends house in Brick so he didn't need a rental... It is the economy that has been sluggish. Not many want to spend, the confidence level is low so everyone is back to day trips.

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Common Sense for the Beach

12:18 am on Thursday, August 9, 2012

The idea that SSH was a nice family town is what you wish was true for your agenda. The idea that what SSH has always been could somehow have been changed by politicians is something you wish was true for your agenda. But those of us who have been here for more than a decade know it is not the truth. That truth is not insulting to the people who grew up there. They have always known what their town is and was. What they always told me was "It is hell in the summer for 10 weeks, but just fine the rest of the year."

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Someone Who Knows

7:45 am on Friday, August 10, 2012

Somebody you are correct SSH was a family town! Common Sense for the Beach must be a Nicky Newarker!

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somebody

7:59 am on Friday, August 10, 2012

Someone, No... .He and AResident just feels PPB residents have always been so much better than SSH residents.

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A Resident

10:42 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012

Actually somebody....I always felt PPB was a better town than SS. And still do. You are free to feel differently.

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somebody

7:58 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

A Residents, We know from comments you leave. We get it. You think Point Pleasant Beach is better than all the towns they surround. The kids are better, the schools are better...we do nothing wrong. We are superior to all others. Get out of your little bubble that you live in. You and your town is really not all that. It is a nice town being it by the beach. It stops there. To bad to many have their nose up in the air to everyone.

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A Resident

7:30 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012

somebody, you need to read slower. Here's what I said....

"I always felt PPB was a better town than SS"

That's all, no mention of any other towns.

somebody

6:47 am on Thursday, August 9, 2012

Common Sense,,,,You are nuts, I have no political agenda. The local politicians in any town is place there to do what is right for all the residents. Now, maybe some of the residents will tolerate more crude and rude behavior and that is their choice. Listen, if you are trying to tell me that Seadside 30 years ago is the same as today, I would have to say you are not being honest because everything has changed in 30 years. If any town wants to continue to stay nice then sometimes you have to put ordinances in place. Personally, I could not tell you about the winter, but I was told the exact opposite. Residents don't like the winter, the town changes to many transient and welfare residents in their town that they don't know. They actually are more afraid of their wives walking around in town and they feel safer in the summer when the extra police are around.

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Opinionated

9:45 am on Thursday, August 9, 2012

Hello all, I have a question. I remember SSH back in the mid-80s and saw a noticeable difference in the clientele. It made lose interest in going to the boardwalk and have not really been back much. They used to have a fun mini-golf course on Central Av. that was a "mountain". Unfortunately, it was sold to a developer who levelled it for some reason (certainly not for anything relevant). But my question is that back in the mid-80s, it seems a very undesireable element started moving into the hotels/motels and that apparently triggered a downward spiral for that down. Am I wrong about that? Maybe it is not THE cause but it could a contributing factor.

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Beach_N8iv

8:27 am on Wednesday, August 15, 2012

Take a look at what "infests" the motels in PPB during the off-season. Why don't we hear anything about THAT? I have a friend that sold his house and moved because it backed up to one of these sleaze warehouses. Why don't we hear the Mayor, Council and/or outside agitators complain about this?

Someone Who Knows

7:49 am on Friday, August 10, 2012

Before it was mini golf it was a beautiful water park and before that it was an ice plant with a huge lot that all us kids used to play in! But you are correct the town started to spiral in the 80's long before MTV hit.

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somebody

8:18 am on Friday, August 10, 2012

I remember my family taking me to both to PPB and SSH, They were both family destinations, very similar. SSH just had more to do for older children and the crowd changed later at night...It became more of a partying town. Whereas PPB just closed down earlier. When we were younger we went to PPB as we got older we went to seaside... I to remember it spiraling in the 80's. Maybe that is when the SSH council should have taken control of their town and stop the rowdiness by putting stiffer ordinances and penalties in. Like I said, My friend just went to SSH during the day. He said it was nice, lots of families and they had fun. I would say majority of the residents in PPB and council does not want their town to become the same as SSH. A family destination during the day and an out of control partying town at night. That is where they were heading and the town and council did not like it and the reason for the all the controversy in the PPB.

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Alexander

4:25 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012

Folks, the idea that Seaside was ever as nice a town for families as Point Pleasant Beach is just political propaganda. My grandparents moved our family here in the 40’s. My parents were not allowed to go to Seaside, ever. Neither were I or my brothers and sisters. Now certainly American youth has been going downhill lately and both Seaside and PPB have suffered because of that, but there is nothing politicians can do about that. Any changes in PPB this year has more to do with the economy and the bad publicity, then the one ordinance the Council passed. The parking plan discourages families and rowdies alike. The bad publicity just scares away families. And that is the real tragedy of the Barrella Gordon Corbally and Tooker election time propaganda.

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Q

8:12 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012

Alexander, I don't know you, but... who ever you are? With all the comments you left you are the one who appears to be playing the political propaganda game. Nothing personal, you also sound like you fell PPB is so much better and it really is not. You think your community is so above everyone else's. Little pompous don't you think. So you are trying to saying you went down to SSH way back when as a teenager and you didn't have fun and was scared of what you saw and now know the reason your parents didn't want you to go there way back when... Sorry, I am not buying that story. I will say you are right in reference to the economy any thing else is guessing and again you sound like you are the one with a political motive. You could be totally wrong, maybe some frequent visitors felt you were getting more like SSH then what you are willing to admit. It is possible they did not like what they seen or what they were use to just like when you went to SSH. Blaming others is not flattering.

Pat

4:45 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012

Well, Alexader, since your parents or you and your brothers and sisters were never allowed to go to SSH, I'm not sure how you know what it was like. I was a nice town with rides for the little kids and bigger kids. There were a lot of nice places to eat and 2 movie theaters. The boardwalk was bigger and had a lot more to offer a family. There were and are 2 merry-go-rounds. It is a shame that your young life at the shore was stiffled.

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Laura

5:16 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012

Seaside was honky tonk. At least from the 60's on. The sights you would see on the Seaside Boardwalk, you would never have seen in the Beach.

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Q

8:17 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012

Laura, You must be related to Alexander. You also sound pompous. You think PPB is so much better than all the other beach towns. SSH was honky tonk from the 60's during the night time life just as PPB is with their clubs... I have been there and I seen plenty of characters on your Boardwalk as much as mine. I think the residents need to get off their high horse.

Alexander

5:19 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012

Because, silly Pat, as soon as we were old enough, we, just like our parents, went to SSH. There we saw why we were not allowed to go. It had nothing to do with merry-go-rounds, or restaurants, or movie theatres. It had to do with the people there. And the SSH crowd was always a rougher crowd than the PPB crowd. Always, including in the last 10 years. The reason was not what facilities were there, the reason was reputation. And, as I noted above, the real tragedy is the damage done to PPB's reputation by thoughtless politicians focused solely on their own political ambitions and personal vendettas.

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L

10:31 am on Monday, August 13, 2012

Thank You for keeping the trouble out of the town.

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somebody

10:57 am on Tuesday, August 14, 2012

A Resident, I get it... I don't need to slow down on reading anything. You think your town is better than SSH. You have left plenty other remarks and comments about other towns and how superior you feel your town is.

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Council gets an "F"

4:51 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012

Way I hear it ride park revenue is down, beach revenue is down, but bar revenue is up, and parking revenue is up. So we have more rowdies and fewer families. Why? Parking plan scares away families, bad publicity scares away families and attracts more rowdies. And Barrella and his supporters are congratulating themselves? For what?

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Cathy Kelly

12:56 am on Wednesday, August 15, 2012

I'm a little confused,you are saying that a parking plan from midnite to 6 am is driving away the families? Maybe you can explain that the publicity stating that
PPB does not want the bar crowd would drive away families???

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Council gets an "F"

7:31 am on Wednesday, August 15, 2012

I agree, you are confused. Looks to me like you are totally confused, but why quibble? Publicly stating PPB wants more families is what Barrella wants to do now that you and he and the rest of the Barrelladependents have spent the last few years driving away families by exaggerating the number and kind of rowdies in PPB to satisfy personal vendettas and selfish political motives. You can deny it all you want, but we were all witnesses, and the increase in parking revenue and BW bar revenue is the proof.

rs

10:10 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012

Cgaf, Don't listen or believe everything you hear. It is a bunch a bull. We don't have more rowdies here. It has been the calmest year ever. I have seen nothing but families, so I don't know who is pulling your leg. The town is surviving with the parking plan. It is working out great, they might have to tweak a few things, but it is defeating the purpose. More should admit this but they are to stubborn. This town always says they are down. The beach revenue is down because the economy..not everyone wants to pay $9.00 dollars to get on the beach. Point Pleasant Beach has out priced themselves and that is the only reason why some might choose to go somewhere else that might be affordable. How is the Parking Plan scaring away families? The plan is a night plan to keep rowdies away.. The parking plan starts at 12 midnight until 6 in the morning. Families are not coming at 12 at night...so I think you are telling a story.

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rs

10:11 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012

I would give some Council members an "A"

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KH

10:28 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012

I am not from Point Pleasant Beach...I was there this past weekend playing "Beach Volleyball. Might be my last. The only one who is at fault and the reason their beach revenue is down is because of a guy named "MIKE V" This guy has serious problems. This man was the most disrespectful man I have ever met in my entire life. He was like the beach nazi.... I felt like I was in Russia... He was accusing customers of not paying. He was yelling at the customers to put the beach badges on. He did not care if it put a whole in their Bath suits. Customers do not want some guy yelling and getting right up in their face when they are spending money. There is away to talk to your customers. People do not need that kind of attitude, especially when they come to relax or have fun. I was not the only one complaining about this guy called "Mike V" There was plenty of both men and women. One women stated who gave this clown all this "power" He is on a power trip and the owners should know. Someone mentioned that they were going to get a petition together to send to the owners? The only one who is losing Beach Revenue is themselves.

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Council gets an "F"

10:33 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012

rs--families don't understand the parking plan. How many families have asked questions during the day? I hear them everyday. Families asking if they need a permit to park on the street, in the middle of the day. And as for bad publicity attracting rowdies, you don’t think the bad publicity attracts families, do you? Barrella and Corbally don’t. They were quoted in the APP this week “It’s been a rough three or four months from a public relations standpoint and the council has had something to do with it, as has the chamber, as has the boardwalk, as has the residents.” I agree, Barrella Tooker Gordon and Corbally have deliberately sullied PPB’s reputation, with help from their supporters, to satisfy personal vendettas and selfish political motives. The only thing the chamber and the BW have done is sit idly by and watch it happen. That earns an “F” all around.

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Part Timer

8:47 am on Wednesday, August 15, 2012

When and if you go into NYC, do you or don't you read the parking signs....
Stop with the BS and scare tactics, spin etc...................

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A Resident

9:23 am on Wednesday, August 15, 2012

If the person that is driving the car (full of family members) is not capable of reading and understanding the parking signs....they should not be allowed to drive anymore.

"Permit Parking Only, 12:00am to 6:00am" Is that REALLY too hard to understand?

rs

8:04 am on Wednesday, August 15, 2012

CGAF, Sorry, I am not understanding how families don't understand the parking plan. There is signs that explains no parking...It says no parking between the hours of 12 p.m to 6 a.m...I can understand those who can't speak, read or write english. Families are not going between those hours, I would say you are not losing families. What I do think is confusing is that the few county roads that run town would confuse those who want to park for the night life because we have no signs at that road because the county would not let us. Personally, I feel the County is wrong, especially since they have allowed the town of SSH get away with this practice for over a decade. I find that really funny and a poor excuse when they denied our town. No, I don't, families want to be able to come to a town with their families without having problems. I would think they would be happy with the town because the town is trying to keep rowdies away. Families were quoted in the paper recently that they would rather pay a little more in a hotel tax, to keep the town clean, keep the rift raft out...PPB was losing families the past couple of years because it was getting a little rough and not what families want to see here. They "the council" wants to work together on how to bring "Families" I also hear many visitors talking saying how out of control the prices are getting here, you don't think that can be the reason why revenue is down.

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rs

8:33 am on Wednesday, August 15, 2012

Sorry for the error "run through the town"

rs

8:32 am on Wednesday, August 15, 2012

CGAF, You say, what you hear about parking and if permits are needed. I just took a walk on the BW the other day. This is what I have been hearing from visitors as I was walking down. This is outrageous $36.00 dollars to get on the beach for the 4 of us, this was not only once as I was walking down to the inlet. I heard senior asking for a senior discount, I heard visitors saying, I am going to go to Wildwood or Ocean City next time, it cost nothing to get on the beach...don't know if that is true. That is what I heard. I also here visitors saying they are turned off by the nastiness of some of the employees...not from the kids either, these are adults. I don't know what is going on with the BW, but you don't think they can do things to make it better for themselves. I understand It is " Free enterprise"...but you don't think they can spark their own economy with a trickle down effect all by themselves. Maybe they would get more customers if they lowered the prices a little to get on the beach.... Actually draw in more customers to their businesses and possibly make more money. Maybe it would give more visitors money to spend, in one of their other businesses, games or arcades. I know they had one or two free beach days in SSH, why not do that in PPB. Greed takes over and it actually hurts businesses to me, customers feel like they are getting gouged and taking advantage off. I also read sullied PPB reputation from "outofthebeach4now too. The blaming is ridiculous.

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A Resident

9:21 am on Wednesday, August 15, 2012

rs, I think you need to go up to Mr. Storino and explain to him why he needs to hire you and let you run his business. I'm sure he will happily take your suggestions.

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rs

1:52 pm on Wednesday, August 15, 2012

No Thank You, It is his business and he can do whatever he would like. Like I said, It is a free enterprise...no one can dictate to any business what to do with their own business... Customers are the ones who dictates what they are willing to pay or how much they patronage a business. If customers feel they are not getting their monies worth or they are getting gouged they will stop going and find a new place. You can't keep on getting away with or saying you are down, not making any money and continue to keep business as usual and then blame the town for all their misfortune. Can't play it both ways!

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rs

1:54 pm on Wednesday, August 15, 2012

As far as nasty employees that is a turn off in any business.

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