So Much to Say,
I guess since you're telling our readers to read it, that means you've read it. Please, tell us where she says she hates white people. Direct quotes are appreciated. Thanks.

Kind of weird she married one then, eh?

Get a life, stop lying. Oh wait, thats the only thing you Republicans are good at.

Did She or Did She Not Sit In Jeremiah Wrights Church? Did Jeremiah preach white hate or not? Oh and remember too people, by her own words she was never proud of her country even when we landed men on the moon, or achieve other greatness. No, she had to wait until her husband was running for president to be proud of America!

Wake up and smell the truth. She is a flat out radical who doesn’t believe in the American Dream any more than Jenny von Westphalen, would have!

@Curt Carnes. The important question is: Did Mitt sit in a Mormon Moronic church? Gawd almighty there is not a hint of real Christianity in Mormonism. LOL! They claim an angel came to earth 100 years ago and gave a whole new version of the bible to a failed fiction writer. The stupidest thing is no one has ever seen those fabled gold plates. LOL! Mormonism is no different than Tom Cruise's Scientology - both of them are moronic. You ought to research Mormonism. I once did research it because I considered converting to it. The whole basis for that “religion” is unbelievable.
I could care less what Michelle does. She is not running for office. Perhaps you should compare bleach bottle blonde Ann Romney to Michelle. Michelle has worked for a living; Ann Romney is both an accomplished Rodeo Road shopper and do-er lunch with the girls.

@So Much To Say. Where is your proof? Oh, you do not have any. Duh! That is because she did not say that. But you already knew that. man, you are daft. Lying for a high holy Mormon candidate running for president. So much, can you get any lower?

@Ric. These is so much hate and falseness in your post it is not even worth responding too. However, you can read about the Mormon religion here. ---- http://mormon.org/?gclid=COmbo7q5nrICFQjc4Aodz2gArw

There's no such paper. It only exists in the imagination and web sites of hatemongers.

@Curt Carnes. There is nothing I said which was a lie - if there was you would have cited it. Stop trying to weasel out of the truth.

@Ric. I'm weaseling out of the truth? Are you kidding me? I’m trying to be polite and provide you with a link that tells the truth of that religion. Outside of White America Hate, can you tell me what Jeremiah Wright Church stands for?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hPR5jnjtLo

@Curt Cranes. You said I lied about Mormonisn. if I did, surely you can say what i lied about. I am not to dance to your weasel dance. If I lied just say where.

@Ric why are you dancing around the Jeremiah Wright questions?

Well if she hates white people ,well her husband sure likes white people!

I'd like to read that paper. Do you have a copy or can you provide an outlet where I can get it?

Agreed.

@ RIc

You sit there bashing another man's religion like you know for sure your religion is the only one that is right. Yeah, you liberals are so accepting of others lol. Well guess what this is America and we have this thing called religious freedom because that thing that Obama fails to recognize called The Constitution says so.

@Christina Paciolla

I read the paper and there is no doubt what it clearly says. Michelle Obama hates white people. I'm assuming your a journalist, do your homework and do everyone a favor and YOU print it. But of course since I only see advertisements on the Patch for the Obama clan that in itself leads me to believe this is a democRATic news affiliate and I'm sure your not going to print it. So get rid of the one-sided journalism and publish the paper. YOUR readers would really enjoy reading it.

Patch has run PAID ads from the Obama campaign and PAID ads from the Romney campaign. Thanks for reading.

So-called "liberals" are the most judgemental and close-minded people there are

@so much to say. You are an outright liar. I also read it and it said nothing of the kind. Absolutely not. Do you feel good when you lie? If you have family, do they know you are a liar? No wonder you do not use a nick. What a big liar you are.

Michelle Obamas paper did not say that however that does not stop people who dislike the President so much that they believe every insane thing they read or hear about him no matter how nutty the claim may be.

Bill Mays:
http://obamalies.net/list-of-lies

I'm so glad that everyone dies eventually, because I hate you all.

Michele says at the 911 Ceremony “All this over a damn flag”. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKLr1EQpqIo
last night they replaced “GOD” with faith, faith in what? Do they mean faith in Gov.? They said “The only thing we have together is Government” that is socialism and has no place in our country. The Super pac for OB said Romeny killed a workers wife and Debbie W. Shultz caught on tape lieing about the Romney campain being dangrous to Isreal but denied saying it. The Dems have been caught lieing so many time it is getting old.
http://midnightwatcher.wordpress.com/2012/09/04/god-and-pro-israel-language-removed-from-democratic-party-platform/
JESSE JACKSON/ OBAMA NOT FOR THE JEWS !!
GE CEO, Obama hates business, and business hates Obama...(That’s his friends)

So much hate is being spewed by angry white guys brainwashed by Fox Noise, Rush and Koch Bros. propaganda!

The Mom in Chief in every household simply wants a better life for her child, not another tax break for millionaires.

@Concerned Your comments are right on! Only problem is most people think the goverment is spending other peoples money, not theirs. They also do not have any knowledge beyond the sound bite. Why did Obama block his school records????

I'm more concerned with social issues. The issues that the Republicans think they have the right to make decisions for me. Republicans still believe in Leave it to Beaver and the old saying "keep them barefoot and pregnant" and in the kitchen. I don't believe the economy will change drastically with either party. We have a world-wide problem not just a US problem.

@Sue

I think you are brainwashed by MSNBC. The Republicans are trying to give a tax break to everyone! Not just millionaires. As a NJ resident are you enjoying your recent income tax break or property tax break? Oh right the democrats blocked both of those and said we will wait. Wait until when? Until people forget and you never get it.

Sue, a better life for your kids DOES mean paying attention to finances, job opportunities, the deficit, living under a balanced budget (both in your household AND in the government), not taking on more credit than you can handle. 'Social issues' don't have nearly as much impact on the well being of your child as economic issues. And no amount of food stamps provide a solution to a weak economy.

Any woman with a brain in her head would never vote for Romney.....clearly you are uneducated and still spending your evenings watching Housewives of NJ or Orange County or whatever......if you support Mitt you are a misogynst.....do you know what that means? Look it up!

Clinton brought up the very good point that Republicans are unable to balance a budget - simple arithmetic. For twelve years before him and eight years after Repubs took balanced budgets and decimated them. Why should we believe anything the Repub bozos have to say?

Selene - For a presumed feminist, you surely do not have very nice things to say about women. Must we be lock step with one ideology or can intelligent women have differing views on a whole host of issues? You've been trained well by the Democrat left wing. Believe their mantra or face the wrath of arrogant name callers who are not nearly as "tolerant" as they would purport to be. Blessings to you(that would be a "God" reference and I am hopeful that I am not offending anyone).

And some women are concerned about healthcare. When you are given healthcare through your employer, thats the plan you get. Like it or not. If you don't like it, you can refuse it and go buy your own to the tune of approximately $1800 per month for a family of four. That is your only choice. In the State of NJ, if you are insured through a policy offered by your employer, you cannot go out and buy additional insurance. Its one or the other, take what really isn't the greatest, or try to figure out a way to pay for a better policy on your own. It is against the law in NJ, because no insurance carrier wants to have the fight of being considered primary. While I am not thrilled with the state of the economy, with a spouse battling cancer, my concerns right now lie with his healthcare.

There are not enough people with millions to sustain this country ~ everything is still on the back of the middle class majority. Politicians say what people want to hear and when elected, do what they want to do anyway.

Enjoy your descent into serfdom and poverty then.

B@B your comment is amusing...go see 2016 Obama's America. You're already on the road to serfdom...stay loyal to your owner!

LOL B&B! Descent into poverty? That will surely occur if the current administration continues another four years. Did you notice the deficit, the lack of jobs, consumer costs rising? Like it or not, the man in office wanted ownership and he has it. He has no intention of "fixing" the issues, only making citizens more reliant on the government. Time for him to go.

B@B

Hahahaha. Obama is the least fiscally responsible president in history! That is a fact look it up. The debt has skyrocketed under his command. How about you give the guy that has actually balanced a budget a chance.

Pat you are an idiot...vote for the guy who wants to take away your reproductive rights and that of your daughter...MITTT

There you go again. The only thing OB (and OB lemmings) have is ugly name calling and lies, obviously you have fallen into the the ugly name calling pit. Women won't fall for the (desperate) "Free" contraceptive laim bait offer in exchange for your vote, while we write a check for more than triple for our health care ins. Proud "informed" women voting against OB.

Selene - Again, you are allowing your ovaries to do your thinking and talking. Too few abortions in this nation are not the problem in 2012. Too few jobs, too high of a deficit, too much federal spending, too little respect on the international stage....those are the problems. If your party's primary platform is free contraception and abortions for all, I have a sense that unemployed Americans with upside-down mortgages have other more pressing matters to attend to.

@Donna Griffin. You actually said, "Selene - Again, you are allowing your ovaries to do your thinking and talking." Wow. I have only heard guys suggest a woman lets her ovaries do the talking. Are you really a woman?

Ric - Two 10 lb. babies do indeed qualify me as being a woman. Blessings to you, too!

The economy is the #1 issue in the election, period Obama failed miserably on this issue so he is focusing on everything else. The corporate world and its leaders are not our enemies. My company employees 40 K people and supports their families, puts food on their tables, provides healthcare benefits, etc. Our country was built on capitalism, don't be ashamed of our heritage people. Obama wants everyone dependent on the government. Not going to happen Mr. Obama, we are not socialists!

Same here Pat! This household is sick of working for everyone else's "entitlements".

John Jay it s hasnt been only the past few month BUT the whole last 4 years! One of these moroons has been on TV or a magazine every week.

BIG BROTHE has arrived & the biased lying partisan leftwing failing LIEberal lamestream media has been more than a willing partenr.

For leftwing loons like billy mays who'll go off the deep end about Fox News Ill present a LIEberasl worst enemy FACTS & TRUTHS.
1) which network alterd the zimmerman 9-11 tapes??
http://www.lesjones.com/2012/04/07/nbc-fires-editor-for-altering-zimmerman-911-call-when-will-msnbc-fire-the-writer-who-did-the-same/
2) which network alterd Romneys comments about wawa?

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/06/18/media-pretty-excited-about-romney-talking-up-wawa-subs-or-something/

Its PMSnbc the LIEberal network justa couple of teh many examples of blatant fabrication of stories by teh left. Pravda & Joesph Gerbals would be proud

Do you only get news from Glenn Beck?

These are paranoid rambling from the lunatic fringe. And Michelle Obama is on those magazine covers because it helps sell them. Its called capitalism. She was on the cover of Vogue. you think the folks over at Conde Nast did that to 1. sell magazines or 2. help sell her husband as President. be real.

And last night I watched the reaction on FoxNews, Karl Rove- amazing speech, but failed on the political level. Brit Hume, says he is tired of everyone taking about how they all come from humble beginnings. Blonde says that Dems are using too much American exceptionalism... get with the talking points...the bullets story is BS The Obamacare and IRS, please. NSA wiretaps... ummm who did that? gun walking... ditto the last.. Drones? on US citizens. where did you read that? and the UN... are you referring to Libya? a tyrant overthrown without a prolonged ground war and occupation and Billions if not trillions of unfunded war? or is this more hyperbole.

America needs to wake up to the voices of the Lunatic fringe that are ruining this great nation.

"Did anyone notice the Obama propaganda campaign conducted by Obama-supporting media? They plastered his wife's face on countless magazine covers and even on children's TV shows."

So are you saying that these magazines and TV shows had no choice in the matter??? They were forced to put Mrs. Obama on against their will by the evil Obama kingdom??? Puleeezzz!!!!

ever since they started shooting rockets into space, the weather has been screwed up

@Patrick how is it paranoid ramblings when it is fact? Are you saying Homeland Security didn't purchase all those bullets? Or that we aren't deploying drones? Or that the NSA doesn't watch Americans?

It is paranoid when he thinks the context is to use said bullets against the average law abiding citizen. Paranoid to think that the NSA really cares what you say on the phone if its in not terror related, Paranoid to think that we have a President who wants to hand sovereignty to the UN. Yes Paranoid. This is crap he reposts from the infowars website.

Except that most of these things were put in place by the Bush administration. Try again. America needs to wake to the fact theat the rightwing fascists are trying to subvert everyone's freedom through the guise of religion and will consign everyone to serfdom by completely deregulating business and going back to the days of the robber barons.

Women also want control over their own bodies. Just like men.

@Kesha. Obama is going for the Mormon moron vote? I had not heard that before.

It's a good strategy since morons make up the majority

Hopefully you're in that 0.01 % , if not you sure gone be fooled! Romney wants to make more millions ,go vote for him, he's thanking you already.

Kesha,
I believe that rMoney has the moron vote all tied up; or as the tea-partiers say "morans".
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mrvnj421,

Thanks, for a good laugh.

Paul -- Don't hold your breath waiting on her! Jeremiah has been one that the Obama's can't write off, so they hope we all just forget!

Paul,

If I can jump in for a second, I'll make two points.

1) Frankly, in my view, the guilt-by-association argument against Obama, or his wife (especially invoking Jeremiah Wright four years after the Obamas left the church), is pretty tired.

2) To that point, if I'm a member of a church where the pastor rails against gay marriage, to use one example, does that mean that I am also anti-gay marriage, or that I should be held accountable for my pastor's views? It's a crude analogy, but the same principle.

Let's be honest, even as an Obama supporter, I can acknowledge there's plenty of things to knock him for—especially if you're a conservative. Go after his policies, his failure to fully restore the economy, etc., etc. Do we really need to fall back on this tired (and baseless) "he (or his wife for that matter) hates America" attack? If the best evidence you can muster to buttress your argument is a paper the First Lady wrote in college (which I've read part of and says nothing about hating white people), or his membership in a church where the pastor was a nut and a jerk, I think people need to rethink their attack strategy.

I'm white and I dislike white people who hold gay people down and cut their hair and then don't remember doing it.

I'm white and I dislike white people who put their dog on the roof of a car and drive for 12 hours while the dog defecates all over the crate and car, then those same white people say the dog liked it.

They sure don't seem to follow the teachings of Jesus. You want tit for tat. There's plenty of it.

@Rob – If I ever sat in a church where a sermon like that was being delivered I’d walk out in the middle of the sermon, and long before the press got ahold of it and it became an embarrassment to me. I understand Barack sat in that man’s church for one or two decades, and used Jeremiah to marry him to Michelle.

Now look Paul, I don’t know about you, but when I go to church (and I do that a lot) I spend the better part of that Sunday, along with the rest of the week, contemplating what the preacher said and trying to live the life the preacher talked about!

Do you really wish to wash this bad spot in Obama’s life away? Do you wish to rewrite history? Is it easier to say it newer happened? Oh let's forget about it!

Sorry, but that one is too big to let go!

@Laura

If you don't like people who put their dog on the roof in a cage by the way. You sure as hell must not like people who eat dog aka Obama. And another religious hypocrite.

OK, if we have to get into a stupid religiuos argument; i mean almighty you guys on the right wing. Here's a question for you How many Mormon baptisms; so that they would be admitted to heaven, has Bishop Williard performed for Holocaust Victims?

You want hate and racism, clearly it's on the Right.. wow, this from Rush Limbaugh yesterday is disgusting.
http://www.examiner.com/article/rush-limbaugh-says-obama-is-not-authentically-black-has-no-slave-blood?cid=db_articles

It's great to see patch reporters break the glass of neutrality when it comes to defending obama. I have yet to see a romney ad on our local patch, just plastered with obama birthday cards, $3 dinners, etc. Arianna Huffington's minions are well trained. Welcome to the real reason patch was created, to spread the liberal propoganda for Huffington and the huffington post. Patch only cares about states that are important to the national election... just compare the patch map with any presidential election map. They are identical I'm sure this will be deleted by Arianna's minions.

Curt Carnes

Something tells me you aren't really hearing what your pastor is saying if you are worrying about what everyone else is doing wrong. Try looking inward that's what religion is all about. It's not worrying about what your neighbor is doing. Jesus would be so disappointed in you. I guess you can lead a horse to water but....

And the life inside that body has no rights? BTW Hookerman, I see you weren’t aborted!

@Curt Carnes. huh? The life inside the body? If you are referring to a fetus, it isn't a life until it is born. And I see you were not aborted either. What was your point?

Human rights begin when you are born, not when you are conceived. All life is measured from the time of birth, not conception.

Oh, My Bad I see your points. But that leads me to wonder why then we have prenatal care? If there’s no life there, why should we care? Boy that must be good news for the pregnant ladies that are having trouble eating right and not drinking or smoking and going out parting all the time when they are carrying that no life fetus.

In fact why even bother to go the hospital for the birth, if as you suggest life doesn’t start till you pop out. Just wait till that fetus bounces off the floor and becomes a real person, and then go to the hospital!

Curt: you can use extreme, non-sensical arguaments all you want. It doesn't change the fact that there is a very dangerous faction of the extreme right that wants to control women (and everyone else) via a false morality born of hypocritical religous beleifs. You don't like abortions, don't get one. Hypocritical righties talk about freedom yet want to take it away from who offends their sensibilities.

Ric - So a cell mass in a woman's body at the 8 month point of pregnancy is not a life? What is it then?

@Donna. It is called a fetus.

I hope you are not referring to a tumor, I would hate to think of a pregannt woman who also has a tumor. Next question?

Ric - Part 2...Is it life?

Just think, if all of you folks had voted for HILLARY CLINTON, in 2008, we'd be way better off !!!! GO HILLARY in 2016 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Uh, Hookerman, how come someone can be charged with a double murder if they kill a pregnant woman? I don't agree that life begins at birth....after being pregnant a couple of times, I'm darn sure that was a live baby in there! I'm not religious in the least, but am anti-abortion for sure.

Michelle oozes class, that is one person's opinion. Let me get this straight she is the only 1st lady in your lifetime that had character. Bartbara Bush oozed class and oozed character, Laura Bush was a perfect 1st Lady. Hillary whether you like her or not was another solid 1st Lady. What makes Michelle smarter, the fact that she now has 20 more personal assistants than any other 1st Lady has ever had. Your tax dollars hard at work to keep her precious schedule straight . The woman is the biggest phony that has ever graced the White House as a 1st Lady

Okay idiot. First off it was the Social Security Administration not DHS. Secondly it was 104K rounds not 1.4 Billion. Get your facts straight. They purchased those rounds for their investigative arm (the people who go after people who abuse the system). They are authorized to make arrests and carry a firearm. It works out to approximately 600 rounds per person. That is not uncommon (ask any police department). The majority of the rounds are used on the range for practice and certification.

Sue - Do you really think that the murder rate in Chicago is up 38% since last year because the nearly 100,000 gang members in that city are rushing to their local gun shops to legally purchase weapons? You are naive and living in a storybook.

Please enlighten us Donna as to where you think gang members get their guns

where's murrow? Are you even suggesting that they are purchased through legal means? Perhaps they're walking them across the borders? Our government no longer views border protection as a priority. It's silly to argue that we do not have enough laws on the books when it comes to the second amendment. We do really well at paper pushing and law creation and do little to promote enforcement. But when you have government programs the likes of Fast and Furious and the ensuing cover up, I'd say the fox is watching the hen house.

Of course they are purchased legally, do you think the gun fairy brings them? Talk about naive and living in storybook land.

So WM....Let me get this straight....Gang member "Lefty," who has done years in federal prison for armed robbery, goes into his local Midwest Gun Shop slaps down a credit card and "legally" purchases guns for himself and his law-abiding buddies? Seriously?!?!

Close, but lefty would probably go to a gun show and pay cash for as many guns as he could carry out. He would opt for the gun show because there would be no background check. Or his partner righty would legally buy as many guns as lefty needs in states that do not regulate gun purchases and traffic them to lefty and all his friends. Thank the NRA money and lobbyists.

@ Donna.. take two minutes and watch this. Very scary stuff courtesy of the gun lobby

http://current.com/shows/vanguard/93520044_going-undercover-at-texas-gun-show-scenes-from-vanguard.htm

Sure George.... go tell a woman who has been raped and is now forced to bear her rapist's child that her situation is just an inconsequential ‘smoke screen’, and that she’s taken her eyes off the ball to be concerned about it.

@George. I agree with you – but it is not Obama's fault. Yes, we are polarized but blame that on Karl Rove, Dubya and Cheney - those three losers won two elections by polarizing this nation. Honestly, watching the way the far right religious fruitcakes are still driving us apart has made me support a democrat. I did not think I would ever do that.

In closing, you are another one whose eyes must be brown because you are full of it. Pin the blame on the offender next time.

Agree wholeheartedly, these issues are being used to gain votes
they pale in comparison to the economic and international problems we face.

If social issues are not important, then why did the GOP declare bans on abortion and gay marriage as part of their platform??? It seems that these issue are very important to the GOP…. that is, until someone refers to them in a negative way, and then they become a “smoke screen” from the left.

@Hookerman

Mitt Romney said he would not ban abortions for rape victims, incest and woman's health. So stop spewing your nonsense. Nothing is going to change when it comes to abortion no matter who wins. Like Bill Clinton said "the economy, stupid!" Which Obama has failed miserably at fixing.

Obama tried compromising with the Tea-Party-led Republicans, but they merely brought the nation to the edge of a financial cliff because they stubbonrly clung to their radical-right-wing notions. That's why I'm voting for a new Representative for OC in Congress, not the Medicare-killing, millionaire-loving Runyon.

Let's end the gridlock in Washington and enact Obama's plan to revive the economy. Romney, Ryan and Runyon have no plan. Republican motto: Recessions "R" Us!

George Too - Those goals require executive leadership skills. I do not know whether it was through any fault of his own, but Pres. Obama did not have those requisite abilities when entering office. That is why someone like a Romney or a Clinton for that matter could accomplish their policies. They understand the necessity for convincing those across party lines to get on board. That is the skill set of former governors and not the skill set of career politicians of which the latter describes our current president. Career politicians live for partisanship and self-promotion.

Damn right!

Then you can pay for al the unwanted children. Oh, that's right, you don't want to pay any taxes to support draconian anti-social policies.

It's fun watching these sheep debate topics that they have no actual knowledge of...their only source of information is the propaganda they are spoon-fed

I have a question for you. A few weeks ago someone called me an obscene name and I flagged it. But it remained. I do not understand Patche's policy. Could you please it explain it to me.

JC Penney just called,The tin foil hhat you ordered is in.

Again, you can blame the Bush administration for most of these disgusting affronts to the US citizenry. Not everyone has a shor a memory as you. As for sending money overseas; your boy Willard is a huge offender on that front. And as to the last point: you can stop spreading that tired lie that armed IRS agents are going to enforce Obomney care. You know it's not true, but I guess lies, fear and desperation is all you and the neo-cons have left.

You stand corrected, John Jay: "First off, it was the Social Security Administration not DHS. Secondly it was 104K rounds not 1.4 Billion. Get your facts straight." Next, read the Repub. platform for details about unlimited ammo clips for out-of-control guns. Romney's anti-women, pro-millionaire platform is suited for 1812, not 2012.

Anyone can make a movie about anything. Just because it appeals to your confirmation bias does not make it true. A republican win will set this country back 100 years socially, educationally and economically. There, now if I make a movie containing this statement then it must be 100% true.

Denobin - I agree that anyone can make a film about anything. We need look no further than Michael Moore. The difference is that your statement concerning a Republican win reflects no facts. See the movie, fact check the findings of D'Souza, then issue your commentary.

Many woman are. Too bad some are not. Believe me I deal with society at work everyday. The amount of stupid people in this country is drastically reproducing at a much higher rate than the intelligent people.

And many women don't follow the Old White Men's party. The Old White Men's view: They want to keep women pregnant, barefoot and in the kitchen. No need for equal pay. They want to go back to the fifties. The Old White Men, Hank Williams and Ted Nugent so perfect together.

Yeah Laura it's clearly a white thing .......race baiting loser !

Chris: and in that respect you're a women hating loser. So there. It doesn't change the fact that this years republican party is the party of fear and subjugation.
@Will: Yes, you are a shining example of what you described. The willfully ignorant being led down the path of destruction by fear-mongering. Good luck to you.

Laura - It is a Republican man that gave me my first job. It is a Republican father who taught me the value of savings. It is a Republican husband who treats me with deep respect and devotion. It is a Republican man who is the father of my children and who would give his life for them. I'm unclear as to where it is you may live, but my suggestion is that you try to surround yourself with better people.

Unite with people who revere Ted Kennedy...Oh wait, wrong talking point.
Can any Democrat honestly defend Ted Kennedy? Forgetting Chappaquiddick, have you ever heard about the Ted Kennedy/Chris Dodd "waitress sandwich" incident at La Brasserie in 1985? Please, Dan Grant, spare us the pontificating.

Have you ever listened to Rush or are you spewing the left wing hate speech?

The "White Experience"?? Tell me, are all whites born with a silver spoon in their mouth? How many blacks alive today were slaves?? How many whites were brought to this country as indentured servants?? People of all races had to struggle when they were came willingly or not to this country.

How did this President get accepted to an Ivy League college when he admits in his book he didn't do much in high school except get high??? Was being black the only requirement or is there more to that story? Who paid for Michelle's Princeton Education?

Dan Grant listen to Rush and get an education instead of spewing your hatred.

Obviously you are very ignorant of the president's life. Obama didn't get accepted to an ivy league school from high school. He attended Occidental college first, and then transferred to Columbia. More misinformation from the right.

@Great Hoax. I do not agree with your political points against Obama but I am correcting your misconception about blacks were enslaved and whites were indentured servants. The first American slaves were whites not Africans – for example, Oliver Cromwell had his political opponents captured and sold as slaves in America. King James Ii and Charles I enslaved many of the Irish and English and had them also sold to America. Later English and Irish poor were sent not as slaves but as indentured poor. Those who were sent to Philadelphia had a decent chance of survival. Those sent to the Chesapeake tobacco plantations quickly died of malaria. Plantations owners then discovered African slaves were better resistant to malaria and for that reason the trade in Africans as slaves began.
Up until the early 19th century Europeans were being stolen from the coast of the Mediterranean, along the Atlantic up to the Baltic Sea and sold to a hellish life in the Islamic Levant’s slave markets. America’s first naval battle was to free American seamen enslaved in Tripoli. By the way, it was the British who led the effort to abolish the slave trade

http://afgen.com/forgotten_slaves.html
Tragically, slavery is still going in parts of this world. It needs to be ended.

Dan Grant. You say: Unite with people who constantly lie!

Now that is interesting coming from a man who lost a defamation suit for lying! But then, I guess you just following the old liberal adage of "Do as I Say Not as I Do"

http://www.citmedialaw.org/threats/soussa-v-grant

Dan - The "Black" experience in America is no more singular than the "White" experience in America. Mrs. Obama's speech was quite impressive, but surely neither she nor her husband have ever truly been "down with the struggle." In Chicago, Michelle attended one of the city's first magnet schools for gifted children - the same type of school her husband's position on public education does not support. She even had the benefit of a stay-at-home mother. Barack Obama attended an elite college prep school in Hawaii and is the son of college educated parents. I would hazard to guess that the "Black" experience of the Obama's is a lot "Whiter" than they would like for anyone to know.

John: Nice top ten fiction list.

Joe -- I never knew the SSA or the National Weather Service had armed agents. What the heck is the SSA going to do? Shoot my grandmother who's in a walker?

What does National Weather Service need ARMED agents to do? It's totally nuts.

Did you know the TSA workers at the airports are not federal agents? They have no power of arrest -- but the TSA dresses them up to LOOK LIKE "agents/officers". This police state nonsense has to stop.

IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN.

All of them, Tax cut's during war-time. Running the wars off the books. deregulating banking/finance; lack of inforcement. Yes i know he kept us safe...until that time he didn't.

Well, the deficit began to grow because he gave tax breaks for the millionaires and then didn't raise taxes when the US went to war against Afghanistan and Iraq. Then there was the mortgage crisis and the big insurance agencies and investment firms who had to quickly get acquired or else were on the verge of bankruptcy in 2008. Bush wasn't responsible for all of this mess - some of these policies may have been created under Clinton's presidency or under the first Bush, but these things did happen under his watch.

Can someone tell me that Obama's policies got us out of the recession? Better still, can someone tell me that Obama's policies even marginally improved our economy? I remember gas prices were around $1.83 when he took office. I remember that my home was worth about 30% more then than it is now. Four more years of this stellar performance? I think America deserves better.

Donna - this is another example of how people play fast and loose with the facts. While you are correct that gas prices were about $1.60-$1.70 per gallon when President Obama was inaugurated Jan. 2009, you conveniently do not mention that as of September 2008 they were averaging about $4.10 per gallon. The sharp decline during the last 4 months of 2008 was due to the global economic meltdown and the need for Wall Street speculators to dump their reserves asap.

http://gasbuddy.com/gb_retail_price_chart.aspx

It is analysis and condemnation like this of President Obama that is the yellow journalism hallmark of the Faux Noise Channel.

$1,000 to the first Democrat to show me THREE law articles written by Obama when he was President of the Harvard Law Review. The must be published and directly attributed to Obama.

"Joe Prim 10:06 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012 Lets see BHO attends Occidental in Ca, transfers to Columbia, how'd he get in? Oh, then goes to Harvard, how'd he get in? No money, no grades, how'd he get in? Completely overrated. All you lefties are in for a rude awakening in November."

He was editor, not a writer... but you knew that and thus the challenge. There is one known article...

So the fact that President Obama was the first African-American to become editor of the Harvard Law Review, an honor generally bestowed upon that member of a Harvard Law School class who is deemed to be the best of his/her class based on grades and a writing competition, has no bearing on his qualifications and competency in your opinion to have been a student at the world's most prestigious law school? And by that token, Antonin Scalia, who was also editor of the Review should immediately resign from SCOTUS?

Here we go. We should have let GM go bankrupt and thrown whole states into unemployment. AND let's make sure we destroyed every business that depended on the auto industry. NO OUTSIDE MONEY WAS COMING FORWARD TO RESCUE THE AUTO INDUSTRY.

850,000 manufacturing workers plus 1.8 million workers at auto dealerships. Yea, let's just put them on food stamps and unemployment. Yes, that would have been sooo much better.

I don't have GM stock. I have no problem.

Laura, GM did go bankrupt. And you do have GM stock b/c the US Government still owns their shares.

Laura,
I read these posts and occasionally I comment to help someone like you understand the correct facts. If Obama had not taken the unusual action of investing our tax dollars into GM, GM would have gone into a "Restructuring under the Bankruptcy Laws". GM would NOT have gone out of business. BUT all contracts and debt owed by GM would have been renegotiated. The Unions did not want that. Obama bailed out the Union not GM. GM has a cost structure that is not competitive long term. GM must get out from under the Union contracts. They will do this by slowly moving jobs overseas. Unfortunate!! If GM was Restructured under the Bankruptcy laws, GM would be far more healthy today and jobs much more secure. Instead the US taxpayers own GM stock which will remain a bad investment until the find a way to eliminate high Union contracts. Unbelievable poor government policy in action.

Good for you, Laura. Glad your investments are safe. Why are you OK with the power holders in this country picking winners and losers? Why would it not have been OK for GM to file for bankruptcy like many other industries have? So long as union employees were rescued at the expense of hardworking taxpayers in this country all is well? GM stock is in the toilet. Why does that matter? Because so long as the stock is circling the drain, the bailout "investment" which our President promised us will never be realized. BTW...if you haven't read the news....whole states are knee deep in unemployment. Throwing taxpayer dollars at companies in financial trouble is not the answer particularly when the only reason to do so is to boost a failing president's popularity at election time.

gm the number one car seller in the world even selling more cars to the chinese than toyota did last year

John;
Well said. The only salvation for the country and GM was failure! Other manufacturers would have "picked up the slack" and, become stronger in the process. The bailout only allowed the weak to survive. We have only set ourselves up for the next bailout.
GM took the bailout money and invested heavily in China. As if China doesn't own enough of our country!

She and Obama voluntarily gave up their licenses. Perhaps they thought they would be too busy in the WH to practice law.

Another conspiracy theorist heard from?

You are correct,Laura.By giving up their licenses,they don't have to take take part in continuing education or pay for malpractice insurance.I know woman who did the same when her 4 children were young and she decided to stay home with them.

Hey Opinionated great question let's ask about a dead guy's racial animus; when he only addressed it himself while he was alive. I would ask Bishop Willard (the candidate) about his position in the LDS church regarding "Until 1978, Mormon leaders announced that "worthy" black persons could receive privileges and secret initiations which had always been denied them in Mormonism. FOR NEARLY 140 YEARS, Mormonism (the "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints") has taught that the black people are "inferior" and are "cursed" by God."

It's pretty telling isn't it that both Reagan and Heston had Alzheimer's way before they were actually diagnosed?

You forgot to call them old white guys laura

That's the Christian spirit, Laura!!!

...aren't you stretching things a bit. . .blaming all these numbers on President Obama. He was responsible for the bank failures, unemployment, property increase, food stamps growth, lost household income, etc.?

Is President Obama’s spending an “inferno,” as Mitt Romney claims, or a binge that “never happened” as an analysis touted by the White House concluded? We judge that both of those claims are wrong on the facts.

The truth is that the nearly 18 percent spike in spending in fiscal 2009 — for which the president is sometimes blamed entirely — was mostly due to appropriations and policies that were already in place when Obama took office.

That includes spending for the bank bailout legislation approved by President Bush. Annual increases in amounts actually spent since fiscal 2009 have been relatively modest. In fact, spending for the first seven months of the current fiscal year is running slightly below the same period last year, and below projections.

Never confuse a Conservative with facts.

I'm glad that you've informed all of us uninformed that Obama controls the price of oil. Guess you aren't involved with the stock market and futures. Try turning off Fox and actually using your brain.

Spooner, well really nothing at all is the president's fault or under his control, so why have one at all? OK, since we gotta have one anyway, we might as well have one who admit that if you promise to do something and it doesn't happen, you'll just step aside. Why allow this talk that 'things are worse than we thought, so we need 4 more years.' Yep, things are worse now that BO has held the reigns for four years....and who can really point to anything getting really significantly better at all? Even if just one or two things got better he'd have shot. I'm continually scratching my heads wondering what African Americans feels he has really accomplished for them....as I see it, their chances just get worse and worse as unemployment remains high and unchanged. I wonder if most African Americans around his south side chicago neighborhoods feel like the American dream is even a remote possibility for them? Fully 1/3 of blacks live in poverty in Chicago, and the number is rising. Yet they vote strongly for Obama. I'm wishing for a small, black Republican to step up and show them the light.

The reasons would be clear to you if you actually believed in facts.

From Factcheck:

A court official confirms that no public disciplinary proceeding has ever been brought against either of them, contrary to a false Internet rumor. By voluntarily inactivating their licenses, they avoid a requirement to take continuing education classes and pay hundreds of dollars in annual fees. Both could practice law again if they chose to do so.

Tired,

I guess you liked the Status Quo when Bushbaby was in office. Those policies got us to this point.

Great point, but when the Rebups stop stashing money into their fat pockets, and start admitting the war put a huge dent into the ecomony then I will think about what you said.

hey status quo...i agree with you. But even more, virtually eliminating the bulk of entitlements still won't solve the debt problem....that's how deep in the hole we are. And, unfortunatley, no matter who gets in office, where will millions of new jobs come from? Manufacturing is dead and gone, brick and mortar stores, banks and services are giving way to more cheaply delivered internet businesses, higher education will be more and more delivered electronically, along with most services....more jobs gone, gone, gone for good. Hate to be a pessimist, but I think we're hosed, man. And once Europe goes down, as they inevitably will, so will go Socialist America.

Hopefully when someone who does'nt have insurance (because it should be their choice )shows up at the emergency room and the bill adds up to millions, we will all be happy when the hospital shuts down! No one wants to be told that they have to get insurance , but it is necessary to keep the cost down.

Try getting out of the State unemployment disability insurance. Does your bank have FDIC insurance?

Re SP Resident:
This country was founded on freedom. That encludes the freedom to be uneducated and, make dumb declsions. The fact is, the buying or, not buying something is the decision of the individual, not their government!

sp - The problem is exactly as you state. When EVERYONE begins showing up in the ER because of a single payer system, then what? Lines will form, services will be rationed, qualified MD's have already pledged to seek early retirement, the bureaucratic nightmare of anything RUN by the government will overburden the healthcare delivery system and we will be left with more expensive, less efficient and lower quality healthcare. We do not have a healthCARE crisis in this nation. Ask Canadians crossing into our border states in an effort to receive timely treatment by some of the finest physicians in the world at some of the most advanced hospitals in the world. What we have is an INSURANCE crisis. What is the purpose of insurance? It is to protect your assets in a catastrophic incident (house fire, car accident, etc.). We've GROWN health insurance to include EVERYTHING from well care check-ups to mandatory contraception. Scale it back, open up purchasing products across state lines, allow for catastrophic policies and I think we'll see more prudent use of the system with lower premiums to the policyholders.

no I am not better off...........and I totally agree with you...May .God Bless us all

Well status quo, unfortunately, alot of people get a check from someone who is DEEP in debt. That's why such a huge percentage of businesses fail and are even failing faster in today's bad economy. More jobs down the tubes. I just don't see anything happening in the forseeable future that is going to get businesses hiring at high levels again. Where's the next computer revolution (the one that saved Clinton's ass)?

If the Obamas are fake and Romney and the Repubs are real, then I will go with fake!

Really a little fact check from a brietbart publication????
Breitbart confirms he was duped by O'Keefe and the ACORN pimp hoax http://mediamatters.org/research/2010/03/02/breitbart-confirms-he-was-duped-by-okeefe-and-t/161084

That guy only got the Weiner story right, and only a Democrat would leave office after something like that. Not good ole Sen Davide "Diapers" Vitters. R-god fearing.

Breitbart? Seriously? That's your authoritative source? HAHAHAHAHAHA!,

Earth and you?

Funny, all the orchestrators of the financial collapse and subsequent bailouts are either good friends with, or now work for, Mr. Obama. So, what's your point?

Good point therealdeal. And you Paul j. DiBartolo, just made his point. These so called orchestrators are the ones therealdeal is talking about. It's not just financial orchestrators that benefit from big government. You have every non profit organization that benefits from not paying taxes. Oh! How? Well the taxes they don't pay, someone else does pay to make it up. That is how. How about the mighty defense industry. Without government they could not exist. How about the great insurance companies. Some which benefit from things like flood insurance programs, medicaid, medicare. How about the great Congressional benefit packages for our congressmen. You name me an industry and I will name you and government program from which they benefit. Let's see. How about the internet. You know. The one that vice president said that he invented? Without government to have a need for it and pay for it at the beginning, there would not be an internet. We still pay for the internet by paying the taxes they don't have to pay for all the goods and services sold through the internet. How about the Olympics, baseball teams, football teams. How about that!

YoungBuck, cover up, your ignorance is showing.
Good name, BTW, given the naïveté you show in your post.

Exactly why do you think the majority of black Americans voted for Mr. Obama? It's not opinion, it's documented fact. But, wait, I guess only whites can be racist.

Paul: I give you credit for being the fisrt one to finally admit it.

And you are doing what? Hypocrite is thy name.
BTW, no need to respond because that would indicate you have nothing better to do than read blogs all day and then respond with senseless, unintelligent, hypocritical comments.

To whom do you speak? Are you suggesting that Barack Obama is less than me in my own opinion? Where did you get that idea? Out of your own twisted mind? How could he be less than me? We're all equal and he's the president.
Now if you refer to his politics and his policy, just for one, what do your think of a man that criticizes a sitting president as unpatriotic for running deficits and then gets elected to the office himself and doubles down on running deficits and asks for more and more and more. I tell you, it is downright evil an immoral what the politicians, Republican and Democrat, are doing to our children. $16 trillion dollars worth of evil.

So sp, we should not consider the person's ideology or policy perspectives when voting? ONLY the color of their skin should rule our vote? Again, explain to me who it is that is obsessed with race and in turn, truly racist?

Question - I do not think he is a Muslim, but I think he is apologetic for the manner in which America came to be. His policies are about making the international playing field even. He has a need to knock America down a peg because being a world super power is not "fair" to other nations who are struggling. The problem is that to accept his philosophy one must come from the perspective that America does more harm than good on the international stage. Being the child of immigrant parents who fled their country during WWII, that's a hard sell for me. You see my parents have American soldiers to thank for their existence. Being a volunteer with the Red Cross, the US is inevitably the first on scene at disaster sites. Without our wealth, without our industrial spirit, without our technology and without our readiness ability, we would not be the international "go to" in these types of events. We're not perfect, but a day does not go by that I am not proud to be an American.

Oh boy, I bet he is so glad he does not work for you. You tell him, Marge.

Marge - very well said. He has been a "do nothing" President that spends way too much time blaming others for the country's misfortunes. He was elected to fix, not blame.

Hey, and who knew that President Obama started the war in Afganistan, until Clint told them.

Where have you been. First off this do nothing president got us HealthCare. Then there is Bin Laden. Neither of these things any Dubya & Cheney did. In fact they can only claim Iraq & Afghanistan wars and they were both disasters.

"got us Healthcare " - critics split if this will be good or not.
Can't say I know anyone in the medical industry (and I know plenty) that are happy about the plan.

Bin Laden (actually the military did this)

No wonder he does nothing but criticize Romney.
He has nothing else to talk about.

@Chris Welch. Whatever, if lying makes you feel better. You know if Obama was white you would support him over a Mormon.

Ric - really?
That's the best argument you can put forward ? I don't like the man because his black.
Did it ever cross your tiny mind that I'm black ?

A good read for you to learn something about yourself. Pay particular attention to the last paragraph.

"Psychological projection or projection bias is a psychological defense mechanism where a person subconsciously denies his or her own attributes, thoughts, and emotions, which are then ascribed to the outside world, usually to other people. Thus, projection involves imagining or projecting the belief that others originate those feelings."

"Projection reduces anxiety by allowing the expression of the unwanted unconscious impulses or desires without letting the conscious mind recognize them.

An example of this behavior might be blaming another for self failure. The mind may avoid the discomfort of consciously admitting personal faults by keeping those feelings unconscious, and by redirecting libidinal satisfaction by attaching, or "projecting," those same faults onto another person or object."

@Tiny Chris Welch, no becuase you are not black but even if you were, you would not vote for a Mormon except if the other candidate was black.

@Ric it seems you spend an awful lot of time dictating what people would or wouldn't do

Sir, you really need to do a little research, wealth has been distributed, UP!

That's why I voted for Bush in 2000. My mistake...

ha ha, I guess you can't talk a "true believer" off of their cloud. Sorry to annoy you. (although I did think the tinfoil hat comment was really funny)

So what's your point John??? Obama was elected President of Harvard Law Review based on some 'conspiracy'??? Is that the same conspiracy that faked his Hawaii birth records??? Is that the same conspiracy that got him accepted into Columbia and Harvard??? Tin foil hat indeed!

Here's some reading so you know that his election was legitimate;

http://www.law.harvard.edu/news/obama-at-hls.html

Probably they vote for democrats because republicans are often people who have views like yours.

It's because we believe we are human beings, not simply incubators. It's because we believe we don't cease to be human with the right to control our own destiny just because of sperm. That you talk about "sleeping around" shows that you don't care one whit for "babies", what you care about is punishing those you regard as "dirty sluts" -- which means everyone of childbearing age in this country who becomes pregnant whether by "irresponsibility" as you call it, or contraceptive failure, or rape, or incest...or who has a tubal pregnancy that can't possibly result in a baby, or is carrying a dead or dying fetus. That's an awful lot of Americans you regard as "dirty sluts." And, sir, that's the point at which you lost all credibility.

Well most women until early 2008 had never even heard of Obama.
They voted for a charismatic guy with absolutely no real-world experience of any kind who talked about social programs and warm, fuzzy 'change.' Unfortunately, most of us women don't pay very much attention to the economy, our government, or even our household checkbooks (example, if we did, so many households would not be under water on their mortgages). We barely skim the surface in seeking knowledge of finances and economics. I encourage all women to pick your favorite book about women and finances and get reading quickly, preferably before voting in this Pres election.

SmallTown - So beautifully eloquent. The funny thing is that many women are far more ready to discuss their sex habits with total strangers, but bring up politics and you're getting "personal." I would welcome more conversations about the economy and about the future we are hoping to leave for our children than conversations about Real Housewives or Jersey Shore antics. Heaven help us!

did they take their whole freaking family?

Hey wookfish,

How much did Bush's 77 trips (some day trips) to Crawford, Texas cost us?

There goes tit for tat.

about a f'en much as it costs pelosi to fly back and forth db...

And Obama's campaign slogan, "Forward," absolutely has ties to Marxism and European socialism. What about it?

Let's see "forward" means progress, as does "progressive". Liberal share the same root for the the word liberty, meaning freedom. Conservatives want to being us backward to the days of 19th century social, political, educational and financial inequity. So, rather than ask why people are voting for Obama, ask why people are voting against the tea party stained GOP.

Thanks for the reminder, Matt. Why is the Patch allowing "Ric" to persist with his anti-Mormon rants. Some might classify that as hate speech.

It's a good point, JW. This is an article that is shared across a number of Patch sites, and I know each local editor is doing his and her level best to keep an eye on the comments. If you see something that concerns you, please let us know.

Hate speech is unacceptable, but religious critique is fair game. As long as you're not threatening violence, name-calling, and you stay on-topic you're pretty much free to post what you feel here.

And please, in the interests of keeping these boards a good place to have a discussion, TRY TO HAVE A DISCUSSION. That means taking the time to address the person on the other side of the keyboard AS A HUMAN BEING instead of firing off rants with no give and take. Again: you want to do that? Start a blog. We've got the mechanics for it. But don't dirty up the comments section because it becomes unreadable quickly.

2much2say...you said it all. Thank you for your thoughtful comment.

Voting based on a social issue such as abortion really misses the much more important issues. It's the ECONOMY. Abortion is legal. But should taxpayers who don't beleive in it be forced to pay for your abortion? It's not really about your body...it's about my checkbook.

@small: And what exactly will repubs do for the economy except finally succeeding in destroying the middle class and crating a nation of serfs? If there's a real plan, we haven't heard it yet.

And by the way: Human rights supercede all other issues. You would put the economy over basic human rights? Seriously? Better check your priorities.

Where did I say Obama had "nothing" to do with the killing of Bin Laden ?

Bin Laden was involved in all aspects of planning and executing the 9/11 attacks.

Here's a great book on the subject.
Inside Al Qaeda: Global Network of Terror
Rohan Gunaratna

Anyone who purposely puts religiousity before country is someone who would not get my vote.

Whatever works for ya, Art. ;-)

just to have someone with a set of balls in office would be nice...

brickmom,they had their chance in 2008.Hilary should have been nominated.

Their licenses to practice law were not 'taken away."They gave them up because they would not actively be practicing law while in Washington.Evidently,it's not an uncommon thing.Having an active law license required that they continue their education.Pretty hard to do for the President and First Lady.In additon,without active law licenses,they don't have to pay for malpratice insurance

Thank you, marylou. Maintaining a law license requires taking continuing legal education (CLE) courses every year/two years depending on your jurisdiction. However, you do not need malpractice insurance just because you have an active law license. Much like you are not required to have auto insurance just because you have a driver's license.

Melanie: Bush spend our future on a false war. Many people's premiuims have gone up year over year for the amhy of the past years and it has nothing to do with Obomneycare. Gas prices have been going up consistanly as well. But you would blame the current administration and put the power into the hands of those that would make sure the last of the countries wealth get hoarded or sent overseas?

John,schools have been requiring students to be vaccinated agaist childhood diseases since before I entered school in the 1959.Some insurance companies have also been paying for them without a co-pay for several years.If I want to have a flu shot,it's also covered,but there is no requirement that I have it if I don't want it.

that needs to be a bumper sticker, LOL!!!!

Nice !

Try anger management. You hate people with different religions, different skin colors, different opinions (not radical right-wing like yours).

Get treatment for your paranoia. You have lots of far-out conspiracy theories and want to repeat every Big Lie fed to you by Rush, Rove, Romney and Ryan.

People like you are poisoning "Patch" and civil discourse everywhere.

You're the reason I'll be getting out the vote for sensible and sane government -- re-electing the president. You just stay here and type more angry-old-man rants.

Typical liberal responce .....THATS RACIST !!!

@ George - and you hate fat people. Try not to be such a hypocrite.

George
2:42 pm on Saturday, August 25, 2012
Guadanino thinks she'll be guv if His Largeness becomes Romney's attorney general, or if he's elected prez in 2016. "Fat chance" of either happening!

Wow, Chris, you have WAY too much free time on your hands.

@ Denobin - actually took less then a minute to find that quote.
Once you realize a person is a NJ liberal. Odds are high they've called Chris Christie some childish name regarding his weight.

All I said above was Obamacare is a 50/50 debate as to it's effectiveness at reducing healthcare costs and say that it's no surprise Obama has nothing to talk about (as far as accomplishments) so he resorts to attacking Romney in every speech. And Ric labels me a racist.

Meanwhile every chance he gets Ric refers to the "moron Mormon".
Laura is talking about "old white men"
George - fat Chris Christie.

And republicans are the party of hate ?

Yeah cleary you have the pulse of the nation and all the polls and his oustanding approval rating lol

Dolt

FYI
http://www.electoral-vote.com

a non partisen view.

You'll be the first to cry foul when you sell your home and have to give the feds 3.8% of the sales price to fund Obamacare.

God help this once great nation if that slob Obama gets re-elected.

My goodness, why is it that every conservative quotes the same misinformation...
It is NOT a 3.8% tax on sale price of your home... It is making taxable capital gains income on income OVER 250,000.

I'm sorry you folks heard this out of context on whatever media, but it is constant misinformation...

@ So: God help us if Romney gets in office. It will be then end of the middle class as we know it.

Patrick, So much to say is absolutely correct. Obamacare takes a % of the sale of your home to pay for Obamacare. Some people believe gov. gives you stuff "free". It has to come from somewhere... where do you think they get the $ to pay for millions of people who will get "free healthcare". In addition there are over 20 new taxes and the health ins. companies more than doubled almost tripled the health ins. I get to keep mine. Lucky meeeeeeeeeeee! Went from $300 a mo. to over $1,000 do you really think I get to keep my ins.? I no longer have ins. Can't afford it after Obamacare passed he knew that would happen. Forcing everyone on to "socialized healthcare"....Of course I can keep my ins. but it cost more than double my motgage than they take 3.8% when I sell my house. If you don't get it, look it up.

therealdoll, you are so uninformed. First the bankruptcy laws would have allowed GM to be restructured and today they would have a much lower cost structure and be viable. GM would not have been sold off in an auction as you claim. AIG was rescued because if it did not pay its claims many many companies would have collapsed. The two are profoundly different fact patterns. I hope you do not cast a vote in the election without the knowledge to understand the issues and make informed decisions.

I think Brad was saying that more jobs lost than the ones that were created.

tryin...that is true.

but melanie, he supports abortions and planned parenthood...... WHINE!!!!! Who cares about abortion, if you dont want to get pregnant, wear a condom, they are free... No jobs, added $6T in debt, insurance prices are sky high, gas has gone from $1.80 to $4.00 since he is president, student loans rates are up, housing prices are the worst in 20 years, but he is a good speaker, and many are dumb enough to believe him.... But wait, he promised there would be no lobbiest in his administration, but there are more than ever, but wait, he promised if the economy wasnt better that he would resign...... All lies.....

Melanie,

Maybe you are just not qualified for the jobs you want. How many times does someone have to say this. Gasoline prices are not in the purview of the President. It's called supply and demand. IT'S CAPITALISM! IT'S A WORLD WIDE ECONOMY.

BTW, 4 years ago Bush was in office. How'd that work for you?

BTW, I would like a loaf of bread to cost only 25 cents - So support Romney and see the prices just go down, down down. Oh, I have a bridge I need to sell.

Right, Brad. Just be a sheep and keep repeating the same old tired, GOP speaking points with nothing of substance behind them. There are those of us who believe that equality and human rights are at least as important as the things you listed. The issues you call nonsense are vitally important to a free country, Let them slip and your freedom will be next (this includes your economic freedom, which those bankrolling the right would love to take from you.)

Brad, sweetie,

I have a job, I have healthcare, I have a house and cars. I don't need to worry about those things, I'm just fine. You don't have a job then you stay up late worrying about it and worry about your own intelligence.

amen, to a smart, informed, intelligent woman.... Obama is telling women that they aren't smart enough to take charge of their body so the government should be allowed to dictate what they should do. The sad thing is that most women actually buy that and not even buy it are passionate in voicing how they arent responsible enough to be in charge of their body, that they need to gov't to bail them out for their mistakes.....but that is the typical Obama voter, one that is not responsible and needs government asisstance in their lives. Welfare recipients should be required to take a drug test for every check, every illegal should be deported, you should be required to show an ID to get into school and to vote, people should want to work hard and keep their money, these are simple, logical things, but most people are just lazy and want handouts

Melanie... But the problem is it is that it isn't the Dems or Obama that have made this a wedge issue. It was the 2010 Congress that was elected in a Tea Party wave to fix the debt, and bickered over it so long our credit rating was lowered because of THEIR actions, and fought over abortion and gay marriage... attaching stupid social issues riders to bills dealing with jobs and the debt.

These people did NOTHING for jobs, and NOTHING to fix the debt. Obama on the other hand has lowered taxes to the lowest in a generation, and has the smallest government is the same time. I'll keep saying it till you people get it, cause IT IS TRUE.

Brad,

Are you even serious: "Obama is telling women...". It's the republicans who are telling women they cannot manage their own bodies and they will do it for them. (think transvaginal ultrasound).

I am an Obama voter. I have never received welfare or food stamps. Wow there goes that theory out the window. I'm also not upset that a black man is in the White House.

I feel sorry for you and your opinion of "most" people. I guess you must have met most people.

Melanie,

So now you want help raising your kids. Sorry but the Republicans will tell you you are on your own. If you need money for college Mitt Romney in a speech told the audience all they had to do was borrow the money from their parents. So please vote for Romney. Want food stamps - Forget it. Paul Ryan is going to be cutting down on food stamps. Guess you are on your own.

melanie did you also vote against the lily ledbetter act for equal pay for women? romney didnt even comment on it

Why would you feel sorry for us?
Michelle was a black woman whose freshman roommate freaked out when she found out she was black. She came from a working class black family to Princeton in the 80's. Can you relate to the African American experience in the 80's at Princeton? I know you can't if you find issue with a 21 year old women writing about her honest experiences. Well we should feel sorry for you that you have such a limited concept of academia that you would hold something like this against her. Further the focus of this paper isn't 'white people'... It is about the Princeton University black community... "I have found that at Princeton, no matter how liberal and open-minded some of my white professors and classmates try to be toward me, I sometimes feel like a visitor on campus; as if I really don't belong. Regardless of the circumstances under which I interact with whites at Princeton, it often seems as if, to them, I will always be black first and a student second."

I wonder what you would write after spending 4 years at a Hampton University or Howard.

As a 40 something man who spent some time at Princeton campus as a visiting athlete , We used to joke about the diversity there in the 80's and I ran track... Not the whitest of sports. As my knees can affirm, that was a very long time ago... and Princeton has changed. I live near there and spend a bit of time in town... Princeton is a much different place, and that is down to voices like Michelle's.

...so are you playing the race card with this link posting?. . .And when reading it. . .she was studying the Black student alumni culture of Princeton. Maybe you should take some time and read it, before you make veiled racial statements.

"too much to say" i thought you should know a little bit about the maker of the movie you love obama 2016. the maker of this film dinesh souza on sept 17th 2001 when the fires still burned in the trade center rubble got on abc tv and said the following when speaking of the terrorists who killed thousands of americans " these men are not cowards. it takes guts to fly planes into concrete buildings. these men were warriors" . now you can go give a guy like that money for a movie only the teabaggers will see and it will be difficult seeing the screen over those colonial hats with tea bags stapled to them but if i want to get my money's worth to see a fantasy movie i,ll go see batman.

Board - Read "The Enemy at Home." From his book: "I am saying that the cultural left and its allies in Congress, the media, Hollywood, the nonprofit sector and the universities are the primary cause of the volcano of anger toward America that is erupting from the Islamic world. The Muslims who carried out the 9/11 attacks were the product of this visceral rage—some of it based on legitimate concerns, some of it based on wrongful prejudice—but all of it fueled and encouraged by the cultural left. Thus without the cultural left, 9/11 would not have happened." Additionally, IF he did indeed say what you posit, you may wish to place it in perspective. D'Souza has consistently held that America charts its own course for better or for worse. Now, what was it exactly that was inaccurately depicted in 2016? I've fact checked and seen those claims debunked by no less than D'Souza himself.

Patrick - I'm all choked up over the fact that Michelle Obama had to suffer through a Princeton education on scholarship after having attended the BEST magnate school for gifted students in the Chicago area. BTW...this is the same type of magnate school her husband's public education policy denies other black girls. Every black child should be so fortunate to struggle as she had.

dinesh souza the maker of " obama 2016" said back on sept 17th 2001 about the 9/11 terrorists " these men were not cowards. it takes guts to fly planes into concrete buildings. these men were warriors" you can go see a fantasy movie by a guy who admires terrorists. if i want to spend $8 on a fantasy movie i,ll go see spiderman

so this election is about abortion, the economy is just a smoke screen. Actually, that really makes a ton of sense.

1% lifestyle? you really are out of touch.... She wears off the rack dresses as the first lady. Name one that has EVER done that. and I asked what a white person's experience would be like at Howard. as in shoe on the other foot. I don't want to be mean, but you clearly just don't understand the issue. so I'll leave it for you to ponder... as for vacation.. last year the Obama's took a working 10 days in Marta Vineyard... and the conservative blogosphere went nuts. This was a Fox News fueled story, and even Donald trump who was hot on his birther romp freely jumped on big time.... Here is REALITY. He skipped the summer vacation this summer... He took 38 vacation days in the first 31 months.... and 32 days at Camp David. in context. Bush took 102 days vacation and 123 at Camp David. There are no days off as President. NO second off. The Obama's have kids, they get them away from the White House. Obama never stops working... I mean come one this is such a lazy argument and just lazy. Read a book about any President, including any Bush... Even George W clearing brush on his ranch was in touch and being informed 24/7.. as is Obama. as for the fraud. That just seems like your personal issue. I've read no interview of them, or interviewer of them that thinks as much... Its just assertions and assumptions ...

Melanie, you are smarter then they give women credit for, but MOST are not. They buy into this crap like the "war against women" which is just made up political fodder. Guess what the Economy is a woman's issue too, they act like men have the monopoly on that discussion, but the economy, national debt, jobs, social security, medicare, those are the real important women's issues. Abortion is a convenient distraction that they use to sway unintelligent women to vote for them...

The abortion issue was dedided by the supreme court, no pres can change it, so why is it an issue? It's a distraction from the facts, no jobs, debt....They need to stop using women as bait were smarter than that.

Well played, Melanie! In a few short sentences, you've summed the Democrat strategy and I for one, appreciate it! I can only hope that Americans are smart enough to see it. What they don't understand is that if the economy continues to tank, there will be NO MONEY to fund their uterine activities!

at least someone's parents taught them the value of hard work and that only you and the effort you put in can determine your success. Obama is trying to teach our kids, that being lazy and average is what we should strive for, the government will provide for you, so don't try hard, don't shoot for your potential, cause if you reach it, we will just take it away and give it to the lazy people.

do you not know how to comment to the original post, or is this a new thought?

but here we are. context. red herring, not Spain, outsourcing by companies like Bain, have to keep up with the Koch's, cheap compared to the rest of the world, and we live in New Jersey where it is among the cheapest in the 1st world, drought and that damn global warming, yeah I'll give you that Obama should have nailed the banks on this.... But to think Romney has an answer to any of these is laughable. He does't even have a solid plan that he can speak to... it is all the crap of attack.

Ohhh I see now so every church that has a large black congregation preaches racism and hate and of course anti semitism every Sunday......if you say so dimwit LOL

@ Chris...the only dimwit here is YOU. You clearly don't understand the nuance of my statement. Sucks to be you. Good day.

@tee smyth. LOL! Actually Tee it is you who "don't understand the nuance of [your] statement. Sucks to be you. Good day."

@ Ric. Please explain to me what I meant when I made my statement, and then I'll tell you how you're wrong. I'll wait.

To all those people casting their votes for Romney, well all I can say, it's always the lesser of two evils and Romney is the MOST evil so lets give Barack his next 4 years....this man at least produced healthcare for ALL. If you don't understand how important that is then maybe you should go rto college or at least get your GED.

...is that Mark Levin narrating the pencil story. . .and it's really all about arithmetic. . .which the Republicans don't want anybody to use?

@Selene - "this man at least produced healthcare for ALL"

And you have the nerve to tell people to educate themselves.

Selene, there you go again, name calling.

Why don't you defend Romney then. I'm not on food stamps or welfare. America was heading this way long before Obama.

Laura - For goodness sake, Jimmy Carter would be a vast improvement over President Obama. How badly are you prepared to hurt before you realize this man should be fired....or are you one of the "lucky" ones living on the public dole, perfectly fine with hardworking taxpayers carrying you through life? The best social program is a JOB!!!

Donna sweetie,

How many times do I have to say this. I've never been on welfare or received food stamps. I own my home and cars outright. I pay for my own health insurance. I am employed. I work hard and I'm not stupid as some on here seem to be. Romney has no clue how the middle class lives. He isn't in the middle class. Bain Capital's main objective has never been to create jobs. It was and is to create wealth for it's investors and partners. He doesn't have a clue how to create jobs. AND he is a chickenhawk. Read the political definition for Chickenhawk. I believe Ryan is also.

Refresh my memory how many jobs were we losing each month when Bushbaby was in office?

Stig,

If you are only qualified for a job flipping burgers, whose problem is that? As the Republicans want to abolish unions, you'll be finding a lot more of those minimum wage jobs. While I think that all union bosses are corrupt, unions originated to protect the workers from unscrupulous employers. Does the term Sweatshop mean anything to you bozos?

Those real jobs you are talking about are created by businesses not the public sector.

So you would rather have 900,000 losing jobs?

Jason,

I'm sure you believe all that you wrote above. The problem is simple. When you have a political party that states the follwing as its number one priority:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-A09a_gHJc

...it's hard to blame the any leader who fails to bring the country together to accomplish common goals.

The GOP has made its bed. It will have to lie in it come November.

And by the way.....if I showed up at a dinner party and people treated me the way the GOP treats the President, I would tell them to STFU! Some people don't deserve better.

KMN, did the Dem House and Senate treat Bush any better? Everyone seems to forget that the Dems controlled the House and Senate from 2006-2010. Partisan politics on both sides is destroying this country

Melanie so well stated. Our country's debt is not sustainable. The percentage of debt to GDP in the UK and Germany is in the high 90% level. Greece it is 165%. The proper calculation of debt to GDP is to INCLUDE state and local debt, including unfunded government workers pension liabilities. This is how it is calculated in Europe. If you calculate the US debt to GDP on this basis its 175%!! The democrats do not get that no matter how much you raise taxes you cannot pay this down. Entitlements must be reformed, not eliminated. Obama does not have the skills, the will, the ideology, the leadership to fix this huge problem.

and Tax cuts for the wealthy doesn't pay down the debt either. You do know what a depression is don't you? It doesn't sound like you do.

only bush had twice as many vacations as he created the worst depression since the 1930s.

How ironic to have the old sexual predator and the new government contraception advocate address the DNC on the same night. I realize that they weren't focusing directly on these interests, but they come with the speakers since they obviously value them.

Yikes, a lot of couples who first met at work are in trouble with the law according to you. Where did you study law? I bet it was at University of Wal-Mart - canned food aisle.

Whatever you do, do not give up your day job for a law practice.

Ric,
you are clueless. people fall in love all the time at work and get married etc. It becomes an issue when a boss takes advantage of a subordinate. Thin about it the President of the USA takes advantage of a young intern in the Oval office. Its shameful and a violation of the sexual harassment laws. Check with your HR department if you are working that is.

such a ridiculous post

Hookerman, You are blinded by your partisan views. Check with you HR department on the law, if you are working that is. The law was put in place to stop the profound injustice of a boss taking advantage of subordinate and also the negative impact of the other workers who did not provide the favor. Its a good law and it protects women from people like Clinton.

Concerned, I provided you a link to the legal definition of sexual harassment, but you still choose to wallow in your own ignorance. There is a reason why Clinton was NOT charged with sexual harassment with Monica Lewinsky, and that is because it was NOT sexual harassment based on the legal definition, since it was a consensual affair. He was charged with perjury for lying under oath, but not sexual harassment. There is no ‘conspiracy’ as to why he was not charged. Republicans would have certainly called for sexual harassment charges if it was in any way indicated.

Next time try researching the law before you publically declare what is legal and illegal.

Hookerman your link is a joke and is not a complete discussion on the sexual harassment laws and case law that has been developed on this important area of the law. The Republicans choose to go after Clinton on obstruction of justice violations, which are extremely serious. They made a legal strategy decision. Your google off the cuff research is not research. Its not a surprise your depth of understanding of the issues facing our country are a mile wide an a 1/4 of an inch deep.

@ Concerned - a direct quote from our HR handbook.

"To engage in unwelcome sexually-oriented or otherwise hostile conduct"

and again:

"Sexual harassment may include a range of subtle and overt behaviors and may involve individuals of the same or different sex. Depending on the circumstances, these behaviors may include, but are not limited to: unwanted sexual advances or requests for sexual favors"

There is absolutely no mention of it being sexual harrasment for a superior to have a consenting relationship with a subordinate.

mtwnres
Let me help you with the law by providing you with an example. If a women provides a sexual favor to a superior and that women receives a raise in pay greater than others with her role and responsibilities or receives a promotion based on giving the sexual favor the other employees have an action under the law. They have been disadvantaged by virtue of the Bosses actions with a fellow employee.

That’s why I stated; “There is no law that states that a consensual sexual relationship between a superior and subordinate is, IN AND OF ITESELF, a form a sexual harassment.”

If there is some contingency to the relationship; either a promise of a promotion, or threat of dismissal or demotion, then yes, it can constitute sexual harassment.

This is stated in the ‘joke’ link I provided;

Unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical conduct of a sexual nature constitute sexual harassment when
1. submission to such conduct is made either explicitly or implicitly a term or condition of an individual's employment,
2. submission to or rejection of such conduct by an individual is used as the basis for employment decisions affecting such individuals, or
3. such conduct has the purpose or effect of unreasonably interfering with an individual's work performance or creating an intimidating, hostile, or offensive working environment.

And BTW Concerned, while you ridicule the source I provided, you have provided NO source at all to substantiate your claims.

Hookerman
I do not know why I am providing this to you. But here is a summary from the Dept of Justice on Sexual Harassment Law. I felt this summary would be simple and easy to understand for a lay person.

Sexual harassment can occur in a variety of circumstances, including but not limited to the following:

1. The victim as well as the harasser may be a woman or a man. The victim does not have to be of the opposite sex.
2. The harasser can be the victim's supervisor, an agent of the employer, a supervisor in another area, a co-worker, or a non-employee.
3. The victim does not have to be the person harassed but could be anyone affected by the offensive conduct.
4. Unlawful sexual harassment may occur without economic injury to or discharge of the victim.
The harasser's conduct must be unwelcome.

Now its point 3 which is what Clinton should of been charged with IF another employee came forward and felt they were damaged by Clinton's sex with the intern. No one came forward and if another intern had come forward the press would of ruined their life. A big part of the law is to also keep victims from retaliation for reporting a violation. Well the press would of created a hostile environment for anyone coming forward so they did not.

Ahhhhhhh……. “Clinton should of been charged with IF another employee came forward and felt they were damaged by Clinton's sex with the intern”

That IF you mention didn’t happen in the Lewinsky case, which is why he was not charged. You can’t charge someone on supposition. Furthermore, even if someone did come forward and claim this, it would have to be substantiated before a charge would have been brought.

@ Concerned - thanks, but the only person that needs help understanding the law is you. But Hookerman already has it covered nicely.

PS- I never voted for Clinton if it makes you feel better.

mtwnres
Hookerman did not cover it nicely at all. I had to point him to a summary of the law from the USDOJ. The fact that another employee did not come forward to say they were damaged by the Clinton sex with Monica is irrelevant. I stated the law correctly. No one came forward because they feared the intense retaliation from the democratic party and the press. Monica received special treatment from the White House by virtue of her transfer to a job at the Pentagon after her sexual favor performed on Clinton. The sad thing is that the Democratic Party of "Women Rights" did nothing but support Clinton and it set back sexual abuse of women in the workplace by virtue of Clinton's actions.

You make up conjecture as easily as you make up laws. “No one came forward because they feared the intense retaliation from the democratic party and the press.” That is pure supposition on your part, with absolutely NOTHING to back it up!

Your original statement was; “Under the law a subordinate cannot have consensual sex with a superior as its is deemed sexual harassment.” You have provided nothing to back this up. All you’ve provided is verbiage that states if circumstances surrounding the consensual relationship affect employment decisions, then it may be sexual harassment, but nothing to prove that all consensual sex with a superior/subordinate is always sexual harassment. Again…. there is NO law that states that, and you have not provided one!

Hookerman,
You are unteachable. I stated the law in the context of Clintons actions. The law is clear as i provided a the summary by the USDOJ. Clinton sexually harassed women when the Gov of Arkansas and as the President. The Democratic Party of Women Rights turned their heads from his violation of the sexual harassment laws and by doing so undermined the protection of women in the workplace.

I actually felt bad for Mayor Villaraigosa who was thrown to the wolves, he didn't know what to say when there was clearly more boo's against "god" and "Jerusalem" being put back the party platform.......finally he just read of the out what was predetermined on his teleprompter (which was photographed)....by a two thirds majority the yes's have it lol

What an utter joke this whole dog and pony show in Charlotte has become.

...was that like the Republican Chair not following their own rules, when it came time to announce the delegate counts for Ron Paul?

She's at work in China as Secretary of State, you dummy! Opinionated, John Jay, Romney, Rush and other anti-women Repubs. would like her to stay in "her place," the kitchen. The 51% (women) will show you up on Nov. 6th, misogynists!

@Opinionated: The Hatch Act prohibits her, a Federal Employee, from attending the Convention as Secretary of State. Think about it. Did you see Condoleeza Rice in 2008? I'll save you the trouble: No, you did not.

Now that I've shown you that you're totally wrong and off-base, will that change your opinion?

And unlike Hillary, Sarah Palin had more vile hatred spewed at her and her family than I have ever seen....liberals even attacked her special need child

fing hypocrite's

That apparently didn't force Palin to leave the public eye, just the position that actually required her to work. Btw, people that star in reality shows like the entire Palin family don't seem to be much affected by such criticism. So, for those who are making an issue of Hillary's absence from the Dem. Convention, why was Sarah Palin not put on prime time at the Republican convention? Why did they choose Clint Eastwood over the first female Republican vice presidential candidate?

you know what i find hypocritical, a women who doesnt want youg people to get educated about safe sex and claims absidance and family values is the answer- and then her un wed daughter has a child and makes a reality show about it

@Melanie. I would much prefer to have seen Hillary as president. I also liked McCain but Palin was far too stupid - even though she "could see Russia from her kitchen." I have always seen Obama as a Chicago politician.
Yes, Bill like women. But he is not the first man, president, or world leader to do so. Heck, the French worry if their president is not in bed with women other than his wife.

If Hillary Clinton is capable of being a Soviet spy and Secretary of State at the same time, as well as get away with all the nefarious deeds you allege she was involved in, this lady should be running the entire world, not just the United States!

@ Melanie. When you said I did not applauded women for reaching higher you forgot to note I spoke well of Hilary. Like her or not, you have to admit she is very smart. And I did quote Palin correctly.

This election is about putting America back in the right course. I do not love Obama. But I rather him for president (I cannot believe I am saying that) then supporting Romney who will bring us back to the failed policies of Dubya and Cheney.

Tell me this: do you think we can afford to wage war on Iran and N. Korea? Just say no to wars. We need to focus on building our industrial base. We need to innovate, we need to become like China and focus on business. We need to stop being the world’s (unappreciated) cop. I am not pleased with the direction we are going. But I sure as hell do not want to go back to Dubya ways.

oh i think he found a little extra time for bin laden and gm .

You can't complain about out of control spending and our huge deficit in one breath, but then say we should never cut military spending in the next. Spending cuts are going to put people out of work, whether it's in th military or not.

One of our founding fathers stated way back in 1776 that the way this country was set up we need a war every 30 years to survive economically. The numbers don’t lie about every 30 years the US was fighting! I think it was jefferson. I did my thing during NAM, Melanie thank you for your service!

Bush/Cheney shut down bases all over this country while in the midst 2 wars (BRAC 2005). I'm not sure what your point is with that. NJ loses $3.2B annually as a result and it affected 20 thousand people's jobs. The cost to close Fort Monmouth alone was $2.6B. This country does not have the resources to go to war with Iran or anyone else, when we were bleeding a $7.1B a month since the FY03 for just the Iraq war. I have to question whether you completely understand the ramifications of what Bush/Cheney did to this country. (let alone the 180 day vacation he was on while our country was attacked).
Even if the Republ House didn't have a mission to ensure that this President would only have one term I don't think any president could have turned around 8 yrs of the worst leadership in American history in 3 1/2 years. Romney/Ryan have no clear plan. I really don't think that a man who is valued at $250M (that doesn't not even count the secret offshore accts) has any idea what the middle class in this country needs. Take a look at the Super Pacs that are supporting his election - all big business and extremists. To me that is a clear indicator of who will be his priority. Then you have Ryan's Tea Party alignment. Very scary. This is a man who co-wrote an anti-abortion bill with "women can stop pregnancies when forcibly raped" Todd Akin. Are these the kind of people that should be running this country? I know that I don't.

Melanie,

Medicare, medicaid, SS and the military need cuts and changes. I always find it amazing how those that complain the most about the economy never want to touch the military, especially if they are in it and on the dole. The days of the US being John Wayne and riding in with the cavalry is over. We can't afford it. AND we cannot bring democracy to countries that are still living in the middle ages.

"That poignant statement and supporting facts posted on a blog have prompted me to change my political leanings" - said no one ever

do you really think you condescend to me? and so what there are armed IRS agents... doesn't mean that there is an army of them coming for you if you skip out on Obamacare... That was the original context. right? So if you have a capital gains from selling your home over 250k in profit and have to pay medicare tax at 3.8% on that like you would salary, and say you owe say 10k... You are saying the IRS will come to your door FIRST with guns drawn. Is that what You are saying? or is it more to the point that you get a letter, then a second, then a certified letter, then they garnish your wages.... Then if then even have the personal they audit you, and then if they find that you did this purposefully they prosecute you. I think you need to get over this need to be right and stick to the point. Its like you can't stand on your own two feet in argument so you dispute the fringe elements that have NOTHING to do with the core of the issue. I can just picture you googling all of these defenses just to be right...

The point is there is no secret army of IRS agents coming for people because of Obamacare. and no matter what you link to or say you can never prove that cause it doesn't exist...

Stop trying to promote race and class warfare.

Yeah sure, like class warfare hasn't been going on since more than two people were on the planet. The rich will always try to take whatever the poor have achieved and it is only the threat of action that stops them. Every once and a while some Republican will slip and tell the truth. Perry did when he accused Romney of vulture capitalism. You think it didn't take class warfare to gain better wages and work safety? You think these big Corporations did that without threats of action or action itself? Where do you live? Fantasy Land?

Dan, during the Republican convention, the film about Romney's parentage portrayed his grandparents as "refugees" that came from Mexico to the US, but left out the little detail that they were American citizens that abandoned America for Mexico in order to practice polygamy. They only returned because of the chaos of the Mexican revolution. And yes, the mean old US Government gave these returning Mormons a government stipend to help get back on their feet. But those facts don't align very well with the "I built it on my own" fairy tale that is the Romney campaign.

You might be better off but most people in the construction industry are either still unemployed or seriously under-employed. Gasoline was $1.87 when Obama took office. Now it's more than $3.60 per gallon. Food prices are up. Home energy costs are up. The costs of transportation are up, credit card interest rates are up, millions are without homes, children go to bed hungry, etc., etc., etc.

America is not better off nearly four years after Obama got elected. Go into the voting booth and save America - vote Obama out of office.

@Clyde. gasoline was not $1.87 in 2008. It topped $4.oo that year. My word man, that was less than four years ago and you do not recall how expensive gas was then - also.
Link is for a random website that discusses gas prices in 2008. It is just the first website google gave me.
http://www.treehugger.com/corporate-responsibility/2008-us-gas-price-year-in-review.html

Clyde, I guess it depends on who you are. The previous poster is clearly better off. I guess you don't remember the $4.00 gas under Bush. I guess the military who were fighting and dying in Iraq aren't part of your equation because they aren't in Iraq any more. I guess you either don't count the auto workers and their suppliers who regained their foothold in a tough ecconomy. You can say that many public employees are worse off but that is because of many Republican Governors who like Christie cut the funding for them ( NJ Unemployment 9.8% ) and cut the benefits they recieve but actions like that have only hurt NJ further. People who saw their IRA's decline when the Market fell to 7000 are better off because now the market is back up 50-60 %. Go ahead and vote for the Romney/Ryan Snake Oil Company. We will see what we see.

Many of the Conservative pundits conveniently forgot that gas was over $4.00 a gallon in the Summer of 2008. If the Republicans want to win, they better knock off the lying. They also need to get guys like Sean Hannity and others off the air. I notice that when Hannity is cornered and can't answer, he says "...well my show is just entertainment...". Well he knows that that's just wrong, and that's a convenient way out of something. He is not just entertainment.

Lucky you, im an 8 year army vet who last served in the 1st Armored Division and is unemployed as well as several members of my unit who I served with. ......but at least gas hasnt hit $5 dollars yet so I always have that.

I won;t even comment on your ridiculous comment about the Pres.being a Muslim.However,there are many people who call themselves,conservative Christians who share most of those beliefs as well.I'd be more afraid of what happens if Romney and Ryan win.