POLL: Would Meadowlands Casino Kill Atlantic City?

'No one here wants to do any damage to Atlantic City,' said one Essex County Assemblyman. 'We don’t want to destroy an industry. They can do that themselves.'

Some members of a state panel discussing the future of casinos in New Jersey said Thursday that the time is right to pass a bill that would consider building casinos in Northern New Jersey.

Assemblyman Ralph Caputo (R-Essex) said that while struggling casino executives in Atlantic City are expecting state assistance, it was up to lawmakers to look honestly at bringing a casino to Bergen County, according to The Daily Journal.

“No one here wants to do any damage to Atlantic City,” Caputo said. “We don’t want to destroy an industry. They can do that themselves.”

Caputo’s bill would authorize a 13-member panel to examine the issue and report back within a year, the Journal reported.

Such expansion proposals have been “hotly opposed by South Jersey lawmakers who fear it would destroy the already-struggling Atlantic City casino market,” according to the Journal.

One Atlantic County rep asked the Tourism and Gaming Committee to hold off on the inquiry, while a Bergen County rep said the time is right to consider expansion.

Caputo expects the assembly gaming committee to vote on his bill within a month, the Journal reported.

The bill is sponsored by Caputo, Sheila OliverJohn Burzichelli, Valerie Vainieri HuttleVincent Prieto, and Ronald Dancer.

Chief Wahoo February 20, 2014 at 05:45 PM
Sorry Joe. You are too late.....Racing is finished.
Bob English February 20, 2014 at 05:56 PM
For those interested in the topic, there is a Facebook group that posts lots of good information on the subject. Link is: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Save-New-Jersey-Horse-Racing-Allow-VLTs-at-the-Meadowlands/129193943805073
letsgetreal February 20, 2014 at 08:02 PM
AC is a Joke...Greed and Corruption (political that is) killed AC. For example...have you seen what they want a night at the new (Bankrupt) casino....!! Its a joke. Also most gaming tables are $20 min.....The City is a crap hole STILL....AC is dead and there is nothing to bring it back. The greed and just down right Stupid and foolish politicians allowed this to happen and they are all in it together....they get and are getting what they deserved. Soon will be Camden of the eastern part of NJ
4Liberty February 20, 2014 at 10:39 PM
I am confused. I thought that the Meadowlands were in New York according to the NFL. Didn’t they play this year’s Sucker Bowl in the home of the NY Giants and NY Jets? If you think AC is corrupt, wait until the Soprano’s get a foot in the door if this is built. Didn’t NJ’s voters already turned down Casinos being built in North Jersey, Great Gorge?
Frank Schapitl February 20, 2014 at 11:05 PM
NJ taxpayers just wasted millions on the Revel, which is already on the block, so why not allow northern jersey try to make a go of it without any taxpayer contributions and allow the gamblers to decide the casinos fate. I thought competition was suppose to be a good thing right?
Joe videodummy February 21, 2014 at 02:17 AM
The government killed the casinos, not the taxpayers.
John B Taxpayer February 21, 2014 at 06:47 AM
Without Sports Betting~ AC is dead!
Fred M February 21, 2014 at 06:58 AM
Atlantic city had its chance. They been here way before their competition east of Mississippi and did nothing to maintain the Tourist trade. Las Vegas knew it had to change its ways. Casinos in Meadowlands will make it easier for people in New York City, Central and North Jersey. Real simple. ITS CLOSER. You can't add more casinos and expect more people to gamble. There is only so many Casinos per so many People. There is simply not enough people to support more Casinos. We already have too many. I do hope the Race Track survives.
John Zisa February 21, 2014 at 08:05 AM
Bad, bad, bad idea...although we already have the required criminal element available, casino gambling in the Meadowlands would over tax to an already saturated infrastructure, should it gain a foothold. Not to mention the years of litigation the Giants and Jets would introduce in their efforts to block such a venture.
john mac February 21, 2014 at 08:10 AM
all they need to do is legalize sports betting from the casino's in NJ, that would give the casino industry a hugh boost in attendance, and create more revenue for this state. Why shouldnt NJ have that???? Delaware has it for pete's sake......why not NJ. The governor is a fat bastard for ever opposing this in the 1st place. And the AC casino's will flourish again very soon, its almost summer time. and beach season.
Roll Back Our Tax February 21, 2014 at 08:29 AM
Who cares? They're both dumps!
Moxie February 21, 2014 at 08:40 AM
Does having Reno affect Las Vegas? No....you can lose just as easily in Atlantic City as you can in Meadowlands.
Tony Dadika February 21, 2014 at 09:26 AM
Let the market decide. The good casinos in AC will survive. The crappy ones wont. Same in the Meadowlands , If it is good people will go. If not AC will still be an option. There is no boardwalk in the Meadowlands, that is still a draw in AC. It will survive.
PeterB February 21, 2014 at 09:30 AM
Here is my question, if its build in Bergen County, will the casino have to close on Sunday because of the blue laws? If not, then lift the blue laws all together in Bergen county and let each town decide for themselves. A casino so close to NYC will bring in a boat load of money. You would have buses from Chinatown lining up.
John Kerwin February 21, 2014 at 10:22 AM
Come on! There is only so much money that people can/will bet. While we at it lets open a casino at Mon. Park, Camden, Prudential Center, local 7/11. How about every town that wants one. All we have now are casinos in PA, Ct, 4 going to be in NY, internet gambling, lotteries, horse racing. Remember when AC wanted gambling and said it would be a boon to AC. Just go past where the casinos are and it looks like the slums. I dare anyone to walk past the border of the casinos. This is just crazy!
Bonnie February 21, 2014 at 10:28 AM
The real question is: "Will New York let us have casinos." New York overtook the Super Bowl. Had the American Dream been open during the Super Bowl (they had years to be up and running), thousands of fans would have stayed in NJ, spending their money HERE. Hmmm... Should casinos in north Jersey be postponed and/or denied, simply look to the east.
TR February 21, 2014 at 10:42 AM
For 30-50 somethings......AC is still the place to go....Best restaurants in the state all in close proximity. Nice, free beaches. Good nightlife. Is it like the 80s? NO but what is? And don't try to compare it to the dumps in PA in industrial complexes!. Go spend a few days and night in AC this Summer and you will be surprised. Palm trees, open air dinner cafes and plenty of 5 and 10 dollar tables to try your luck. Mid week rooms are free or under a hundred bucks. They keep most of the trash off of the boardwalk. The area is no different than Myrtle Beach or Virginia Beach. Its just cheaper and also has gambling if you choose to gamble.
Glenn February 21, 2014 at 11:16 AM
Meadowlands is already dead. NYC already has a casino w/free busing. www.rwnewyork.com
Glenn February 21, 2014 at 11:17 AM
Oh, and that would be at least it's second racino.
Marynary February 21, 2014 at 11:37 AM
If NJ had not allowed casinos in AC today the place would look like Camden. All that influx of $ postponed the inevitable. Hard to say what will happen if North Jersey gets casinos. I imagine AC will slow down a lot if not totally die out. But maybe the beach and boardwalk would save it.
Pad February 21, 2014 at 11:37 AM
Atlantic City was built too far South. They should have built it in Asbury Park to make it more centralized for NJ residents. I know many who won't go to AC due to the distance away from No. Jersey. North Jersey residents are spending their money in Bethlehem, Pa, The Pocono's, NY and Connecticut. This is all revenue NJ is losing from its own taxpayers
BerniesBarStool February 21, 2014 at 04:45 PM
Let it die the death it deserves....a corrupt crap hole
Angela Ohanian February 21, 2014 at 05:50 PM
I am laughing at some of the posts - but I think it might be a good idea. I believe there are two kinds of gamblers - the kind that loves to gamble and will gamble anywhere, any time on anything. And then there are those who like the excitement of getting on a bus or driving down to AC to see the shows, dine, walk on the boardwalk, try their hand at a few casinos and maybe spend a couple of nights. Kind of a gambling getaway. Nothing can take the place of that. The Meadowlands would be for people who are gamblers who cannot get to AC or who don't want to be bothered with that long ride and need to gamble. Gambling is a vice, like smoking and drinking. So if you're gonna do it, you'll do it no matter where or what. If they can have a Super Bowl in the Meadowlands with tickets worth thousands of dollars and commercials costing millions of dollars, then why not gambling? But I could be wrong.
Melinda Russell February 21, 2014 at 06:05 PM
While a night out in Atlantic City once in a while is a good form of entertainment all this talk and arguing about an industry that promotes sin, greed and addiction in every way possible makes me sick. A.C. was not enough, Foxwoods was not enough, PA was not enough - we had to add online gambling to NJ this year - these are greedy luxuries that should not use a dime of tax payer money to fund, subsidize or bail out (REVEL - why was this built?) when things go bad - it really blows my mind. The only thing the government should have to do with the gambling business at large is to tax the shit out of it to pay for the outfall of unemployed, drug and alcohol addicted people and their foreclosed houses they lost to a game of chance and partying beyond their means. You wonder why other countries hate us?
Angela Ohanian February 21, 2014 at 06:16 PM
I agree with you Melinda Russell but everything promotes sin greed and addition - Americans love sin, greed and addiction. Not me personally of course but why would the movie and music industry be so successful, why would the internet be so successful, why would the fast food industry be so successful. Americans are full of sin, greed and addiction. I only disagree when you say other countries hate us because of this. Other countries hate us because we have the freedom of choice. We are not imprisoned if we eat fast food, watch dirty movies, gamble or come out openly as gay or exercise freedom of speech. Yet. Give it time. If this Administration has its way, we will be as suppressed as the other countries who are fighting for freedom that we fought for a long time ago but are now having rights chipped away little by little. But overall Melinda you are a solid person and I do agree with you.
Bill Scott February 22, 2014 at 02:55 AM
Atlantic City itself killed Atlantic City with its outrageous crime rate, the shootings, the stabbings, street crimes, the inability to clean up the streets. "Siren City" would be a good name for AC. The sound of Police and Ambulance sirens are non stop. Ride down Pacific and Atlantic Aves day or night, they are a mess. People constantly walk out in front of you, J-Walking, crossing against the traffic lights and they give you an attitude as they do it. The other day I saw a guy urinating on a wall on Atlantic Ave in broad day light. At night the Prostitutes with their Pimps clutter the Streets in particular mid-city along the Pacific Ave corridor. Then there's the "Street People" just hanging out. They seem to have nothing to do or now where to go they linger all day and into the night along both Streets. Then you have the honky tonk businesses, massage parlors, junk stores, the run down motels, rooming houses. Many of the local merchant with their junk stores stretching from the inlet to Ventnor. None of which help the City image. Thank Goodness for "the Walk." It's a breath of fresh air in the middle of a tired, run down City. Atlantic City itself with its corruption, crooked politics, greed and lack of Character did itself in. There seems to be no City Pride or very little. To the visitors, Atlantic City outside the Casino's is a run down City which seems to be getting worse not better. Atlantic City missed the window of opportunity. Now, the Atlantic City Casino Industry is choking to death and bleeding the Tax Payers as it chokes. The Atlantic Club failure, the Trop before that, sold and bought at fire sale price. The Revel, another classic example of failure. How much tax money did the Revel get to build? They have been on the verge of bankruptcy since it opened. There doesn't seem to be any remedy at hand. To begin with, the City and its residents need to clean up and take back their Streets. Atlantic City needs to get rid of the undesirables who create the City's problems and spoil what's left of the City's image. If you want to bring people and solid commerce back into Atlantic City that needs to be the priority task. Until that happens, Atlantic City will remain broken.
Marynary February 22, 2014 at 11:08 AM
Well said Bill Scott
Susan Tokash February 22, 2014 at 12:58 PM
when your spending your hard earned dollars the least they can do it let you park for free. No where in Las Vegas do you pay to park!
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