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No Left Turn from 17th Ave. If Measure Passes

Township Committee mull ordinance that would make left turn illegal

Make a left onto southbound Route 35 from westbound 17th Avenue and you could face a ticket for an illegal turn if an ordinance being considered by the Township Committee is passed next month.

The measure, which would make illegal a left turn from the busy, unsignaled intersection, was introduced by the committee Wednesday. The vote was unanimous. Committeewoman AnnMarie Conte was absent.

A public hearing on the local law is scheduled for Sept. 12.

Committee members, who do not discuss ordinances on its first reading, have previously said in workshop meetings that the intersection is dangerous and that the police reported a number of accidents or near accidents.

While 17th Avenue is a township road and the committee has the authority to regulate it, the same does not go for Route 35, which is a state road.

But the committee also unanimously supported by resolution a move by the state Department of Transportation that would also close off southbound Route 35 to left turns onto eastbound 17th Avenue.

A division of the DOT is recommending making illegal that left turn, according to the resolution. There was no word late Wednesday on when the DOT would officially make that turn illegal.

In a related traffic matter, the Township Committee, also unanimously, passed a resolution supporting another DOT measure that would make Route 71 in the area of 18th Avenue a "no passing zone.''

The DOT is taking an inventory of its centerline markings along the state highway and is recommending the change, according to the resolution.

Patti August 09, 2012 at 11:25 AM
Good idea - it's dangerous and disrupts the flow of traffic.
Mickey Brewster August 09, 2012 at 11:40 AM
I agree. The shuffle of 2 lanes to one is hard enough for drivers to commandeer with the added traffic flow from 138. As a matter of fact that whole part of the road needs to be analyzed. A merge from two directions at the same time? The looks on drivers faces in the left lane when a car stops to make the left turn is "what? Are you kidding me?" More people. More cars. More traffic.
Kathy Dweck August 09, 2012 at 11:49 AM
I thought it was already illegal to cross over double and here, triple yellow lines. But people do it, including me, to bail from the merge and go around onto 18th Ave through the neighborhood. When I forget, and come home 35, especially on the weekend, ugh,I hate it! Something is long overdue to come up with a solution.
Patti August 09, 2012 at 12:09 PM
@ Kathy - it's not making the left off 35 to 17th, it's the other way around - making the left on 35 from 17th - either way it's dangerous. I agree with Mickey - that whole area needs to be studied - It's unbearable in the summer with the merge from 138 - I avoid it at all costs.
Beryl Cusic August 09, 2012 at 01:09 PM
no.........you cannot turn left FROM 35 to 17th. That is what the ordinance is about, not the other way. You really do not hold up traffic turning left from 17th to south 35. "But the committee also unanimously supported by resolution a move by the state Department of Transportation that would also close off southbound Route 35 to left turns onto eastbound 17th Avenue." I think the first statement was an error. Even the picture shows someone turning left onto 17th Avenue
Patti August 09, 2012 at 01:31 PM
I don't know, Beryl - the first sentence of the article says, in part, "Make a left onto southbound Route 35 from westbound 17th Avenue"...
Danielle August 09, 2012 at 01:35 PM
I think they should make it a legal turning lane. Traffic gets very backed up at the light and locals know the back roads. Try sitting in traffic for 25min during the summer just to make a left at the light. Its ridiculous. They should make it a legal left turn area. How is that any more dangerous than turning left into food town?
Maureen Fitzgerald August 09, 2012 at 02:09 PM
The Township, which controls 17th Avenue, is going to have a public hearing on no left turn onto 35 south. The State, which controls 35, is considering making a left turn from 35 south to 17th Avenue east illegal. Please re-read the article. I was never sure if it was illegal to turn from 35S on to 17th, as there are enough yellow lines to cover a football field, but no sign. I tend to agree that it needs a turn lane, not a no turn sign. the traffic from the 138 exit to 18th Avenue needs to be alleviated, not made worse.
Beryl Cusic August 09, 2012 at 02:13 PM
I know, the headline also says that, however, most of the accidents that I have seen is somone trying to get onto 17th, not 35........and if you look at the sentence that is in quotes in my statement, it seems to verify it. It also says that since 17th is a local road they do not need state prmission to make it a No Left Turn road........either way, there it still is a good idea
Mickey Brewster August 09, 2012 at 02:34 PM
In an effort to add to the confusion, Isn't the picture depicting a left turn off 35 north into 17th? God I need more coffee!
Jim August 09, 2012 at 02:57 PM
Mickey, drink more coffee and look at both pictures again. One veh is exiting 17th ave to Rt 35 SB, the other veh Rt 35 SB turning left onto 17th ave EB.
Jim August 09, 2012 at 04:39 PM
I agree Maureen a left turn lane onto 17th would help but we would need added speeding enforcement. As it is now cars fly through the neighborhood. I live just off of 17th Ave. and make the left from 35S on 17th East often. There is ample room to pull over out of the southerly flow on 35 so as to not obstruct traffic. I never make the left from 17th westbound onto 35 south. It's too risky. Either the traffic is jammed up and you cannot get in or when there is light sourtherly flow on 35 the cars seem to exceed the speed limit coming south and it is just too dangerous to risk pulling out and not being able to get a good look up the road as it makes the slight bend under the overpass.
Mickey Brewster August 09, 2012 at 07:59 PM
Jim, My lack of coffee might be why I didn't even notice the second picture. Keith, ouch!

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