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Quick Chek, Wawa To Be Discussed Wednesday

Zoning board to hear two convenience store applications; Township Committee also to meet

The Board of Adjustment has a full agenda for its regular meeting Wednesday.

The board will continue to hear testimony on an application to build a and a solar farm on property at Hurley Pond Road and Route 34, according to the agenda. The board last heard this application in January.

The agenda also calls for the board to hear a pitch to build a just miles away on Route 138 and Allenwood road, the site of the former State Police barracks.

That application, ongoing for months, has neighboring residents lined up against it. The board last heard testimony on this application in December.

The meeting is scheduled for 7:30 p.m. at .

The Township Committee also is slated to meet Wednesday at town hall for an executive, or workshop, meeting. No agenda for that session was posted to the town's website early Wednesday morning.

Paul February 01, 2012 at 08:47 PM
I do not understand why wawa is coming into town to try to get an approval for opening up, while everyone in town is already standing firmly against quickcheck. The fact that the lukoil gas station literally a mile up the street was robbed only a week ago and now wawa is trying to open up just shocks me. This proves that more stations in the town are not only harmful for our health, properties, but also our personal safety. We need to stand against both of these franchises and get them out of our town. This effects every last person around the town in every aspect. Please say no to wawa and quickcheck!!
Phil February 01, 2012 at 09:10 PM
Hey my names phil I'm a current resident living in wall township. I know for a fact myself and many other citizens of wall are planning on moving if wawa and quickcheck are proposed. I don't see the point in this it will lower my house value, I have vbeen living here for over 26 years if more of these trashy gas stations open up next to my house I will have no choice but to move away to a different location. Not only me but fellow neighbors as well are all leaving this town. There are gas stations on every single street in wall why can't the town do something logical and useful and put a bank in these locations instead of a quickqueck or wawa, especially when the properties are approved for a bank in the first place. The robbery of the lukoil just up the road greatly concerns me. The robbery not only affected the lukoil but my house is right up the road this does not make me feel safe or secure in the area I live in. Stand up for wall and say no to these useless gas stations that will only hurt us.
Wall Resident February 01, 2012 at 09:38 PM
I live in the "proposed" area of the Wawa, 1.8 miles south from the proposed location there is a gas station, Lukoil. Directly across from that station there are two more, Exxon and I believe a Getty . How many stations do we need? What about the harmful effects of having a large gas station so close to residential homes? A study found increased levels of airborne chemicals within 150 feet of gas stations due to the evaporation of gasoline during the filling process. The greater the number of pumps (Wawa) at the gas station, the larger the area of contamination was found to be, extending up to 300 feet from the station. Perhaps the most harmful of these chemicals is Benzene. Benzene is a known carcinogen that has been shown to affect the central nervous system, respiratory track, and the immune system. After prolonged exposure, it has also been shown to cause brain damage, anemia, and leukemia. Not only does the construction of a gas station create negative health impacts to a neighborhood, it also effectively prevents the development of a project on that site which may have had a positive impact on the neighborhood. The gas station will likely stay there for at least fifty years and will be a reminder of the missed opportunity for a development that could promote a community’s vision for the future. Come on Wall, think of the residents!
Guntoter66 February 01, 2012 at 10:29 PM
Excellent points have been given, but let's remember that this will be voted on by our elected & appointed officials. They need to be held accountable for the decisions they make. If the people of Wall let them know exactly how they feel on any issue, and that we're watching how they vote, I believe they will listen. Say nothing and get whatever they serve up.
Michael Ferrell February 01, 2012 at 10:53 PM
If the board doesn't at least entertain and listen to the presentations, we open the town up for litigation. Its a process and it seems most do not understand it has to play out. As for the Quick Chek they admitted last meeting that they did not perform any traffic analysis of Allenwood road....which every vehicle exiting the proposed location would have to turn onto, or cross. What a slap in the face to all Wall residents. It does show their real goal is to serve the busy (summer anyone?) traffic moving east on 138, Wall residents be Da**ed. We probably should boycott all Quick Cheks and send notes to their CEO on how much we are not spending at their stores.
Linda February 02, 2012 at 03:00 AM
As a team we can not let these gas stations take over the town of wall. As mentioned there are more sufficient businesses that can be more used in our town,not another gas station. We must vote against this or it can potentially hurt us as the residents of wall later on.
DD Smith February 02, 2012 at 03:13 AM
Wall Officials do not care and they certainly do not listen to the residents of this town. Sure, they might pretend to listen and then do exactly what they wanted to from the beginning. Wall Officials from all aspects of the town continually slaps the residents in the face. John Wayne and Cindy Lu is totally on about the Wall Township schools and what is going on there. I have witnessed many issues my self, so many residents are disappointed and trying to move out because of it, now this. So many already did or stayed and pulled their kids out of the system to go to other surrounding schools. The Superintendent covered up all the problems that were going on. Now he left early on sick leave? If that is what you want to call it, more like it was the only way to soak more money out of the tax payers, Wall always seems to have so much money for nonsense like this, pay for two superintendents at one time, It is not their first and I am sure it is not their last. Most are well aware of the Principal at Central, He just about terrorizes everyone. He has something against women, likes to bully. He has real deep seated problems, he must be on medication and if not, he should be. He knows exactly what he is doing, he is a master manipulator who bullies everyone he can. It is a slap in the face to the residents that they keep him. He most have something against someone if they are willing to keep him. Who would take advise from him, when he can't control his own kids and family.
Linda February 02, 2012 at 03:19 AM
I agree, Michael. Everyone needs to open up their eyes and realize this is a huge problem! These franchises like Quick Chek and Wawa get put within a one mile radius from one another. Do people think this makes our town look decent? It looks like these franchises put their locations wherever they please, this makes our town look overbearing, overpopulated and so unsanitary! I live right by 138, there has just been a robbery at the Lukoil not even a week ago. Wall is not what it used to be, Wall Township used to be beautiful. Now with all these gas stations trying to open up by my house this will increase crime rates in all of Wall. I am against this, I will not live in an area that puts my life at risk. I do not and will not live in an area that makes my house value drop, and crime rating expand this is completely uncalled for. I will be at every meeting, if we can all do this together and let our voices be heard please lets do everything we can. SAY NO TO WAWA, SAY NO TO QUIK CHECK. Do not let these gas stations be approved. Everyone in the town will regret this if you are not present in the next meeting.
DD Smith February 02, 2012 at 12:44 PM
I agree linda, but it is going to take a lot to convince these arrogant puff chest individuals to listen. Believe me, many have complained about the Principal at Central, no one seems to listen. I know a family that once lived here went all the way to State level to put a legitimate complaint against him. The State called told him they were coming. He had time to come up with a story and practice his lies, this is what he was known for. If it was just one or two families complaining I can understand, their has been many.....Some just pulled their children out of the school, It is pretty bad when several individuals alone that worked their pulled their kids, being they seen everything.... Everyone was surprised when a mother who put another child through the school prior to his employment. She was on the PTO, worked there and was well known in Wall Township, needless to say many started to pay attention. Prior to this incident everyone automatically blamed the child and their parents, but when it happened to her, they were like how can so many be wrong. There was many who left for a small elementary school, Wall never questioned why? The funny thing is, it was not just the Parents who were complaining about this Principal, his staff was having problems with him. So many requested a transfer, they would have to go above his head because he couldn't possibly explain why so many wanted to leave, so he would lie to and say I put it in, Sorry no openings. Sure, conveniently none.
DD Smith February 02, 2012 at 01:00 PM
This School Official lied on just about everything. He would always get caught, it was always down the road, after the fact. The funny thing is, his staff that liked him, the ones who received special treatment, even agreed he was a bully.... pretty sad, don't you think. He had his own family issues, he had a thing against any family who had a close bond and was happy, he had to make things bad for them because he did not have that special bond. He was to mean spirited. He would push and give advise on what was wrong with your kids and family. Many residents of Wall Township was like, what nerve, I am not taking advice from an educator in an Administrative role who has no control of his own kids and family. Getting back to the other officials, hopefully they will do what is right, but I am doubtful. I wish more residents would come out and be passionate about the schools as this problem. The two things that will make your home value trop are the schools and safety and that is in any town.
Guntoter66 February 02, 2012 at 02:02 PM
How did we go from WaWa to Central School?
Tom Coyle February 02, 2012 at 02:49 PM
The real question, Guntoter, is not , "How did we get here?" but more along the lines of, "How do DD Smith, Cindy Lu, and John Wayne all have the same interesting interpretation of grammar and syntax, as well as the exact same axe to grind about the principal at Central?" Perhaps DD is a roommate in that residence, too. Oh, to be a fly on the wall for those supper conversations . . .
DD Smith February 02, 2012 at 03:54 PM
@Guntoter66, Just making a point, that Wall officials in different aspects of the town is making poor decisions that are effecting the residents of the town. The schools are just as important as putting up a Quick Check and WaWa in the town. I do not know what Tom is talking about?
DD Smith February 02, 2012 at 04:17 PM
Tom, Who is Cindy Lu and John, they are not even on here. It is what it is if you agree with issues, the interpretation of grammar and syntax could possibly sound the same if agreed. As far as an axe to grind about the principal at Central, the reality is, lots of problems. It is well known in the Wall Community and could be just about anyone including his employees and that is the reality sir. Tom, individuals in Wall should wake up and hopefully with new BOE members they will listen as well as this issue. Wall's reputation has gone down in recent years was my point. The schools, police department, zoning boards, etc... it is no big secret. The problems have been in the media and different papers. The embarrassment of what was even going on in the Police Dept. and schools is many reasons why so many want to move out of Wall, unfortunately with the economy many are stuck. I personally pulled my child out and put them in a private school, and I am not alone trust me on that and the reason why I said it could be just about anyone. That is another problem Wall has and the reason why budgets continue to fail. Why would anyone care or vote on a budget if they do not use the school system. Wall would be in a lot of trouble if they had to educate all the kids that really lived in Wall. If you truly care about Wall's direction, the only place you should be concerned being a fly on the wall is in the Schools or these back door deals of all these officials in my opinion. "DENIAL"
DD Smith February 04, 2012 at 12:07 AM
@Phil, I agree..... But Wall really does not care! It is all about someone making money. The town does not care about the schools either, not the students, teachers or lower paid employees. It is all about money. The top heavy Administrators, some who do not even do their job. If you have ever gone to BOE meetings, you would know that. Who do they always wind up taking away from first, the students, then the lower paying individuals who actually help the students, such as the aides, then the teachers, they never have any money for them. They keep on paying for several Superintendents at a time, done that a few times. Way to many assistants at high salary positions in the schools that does zero for the students. They do not care, when parents complained on many issues at the BOE meetings, they had an attitude, the members were not even listening, looked bored, texting and looking at their phone, they did exactly what they wanted, do not let the door kick you in the you know what attitude. They did not care that kids were getting pulled out or a threat of moving out of the town. They will just get someone else in place. In my neighborhood, most of the kids on the block are going to private school and the one's who pulled their kids out is definitely not voting on the school budgets and neither are the parents who put their child in from the very beginning. Good Luck trying to sell your house. Just remember the way they all voted.
Kim February 04, 2012 at 08:20 PM
Are we to believe that only banks and office complexes are acceptable uses for the route 34 corridor in Wall? Why should the fact that Lukoil was robbed be a negative factor in a proposed Wawa location in Wall? Are we to believe that the only businesses that are victims of robbery are gas stations? I hear all the time about banks being robbed and yet there is no hue and cry to ban banks. Why is that?? Gas stations are the reason crime rates go up and property values go down?? I'd like to see a study that in any way backs up that type of claim. Does that mean that if Wall only allows banks or Office complexes to open in the future that crime will cease to exist in Wall Township?? Now, that study I'd like to see. What I see is people who want Wall Township to support some sort of caste system where certain (acceptable) businesses are welcome and others are to be shunned ....... it's all a matter of perception.....
Guntoter66 February 04, 2012 at 11:31 PM
Kim, the issue of robbery is only one of the reasons stated against W/W & Q/C. Traffic and pollution issues were also stated. What is really the whole point is. Do the residents of ANY town have the right to decide what type or number of businesses are permitted? I say YES THEY DO. Towns have been regulating businesses for many years, taverns, and liquor stores for example. As I said earlier, our elected officials and those appointed by them are the ones who say yes or no, but it is our place as citizens to voice our opinions and vote them out if we feel they haven't acted in the best intrests of the voters who voted them in. I also find it interesting that whenever someone has no valid arguments the old race, or should I say "snob" card comes out. card
NONEOFYOURBUSINESS February 05, 2012 at 03:58 PM
Guntoter66, The corner of Allenwood Road and 138 is a commercial zone, what did you expect. Traffic is going to affect an area no matter what business is going to be there. Residents new that this is a commercial area when they purchased their home. What did not expect the area to build upon? Not all towns have regulated businesses for many years, such as taverns and liquor stores. Certainly not all elected officials and those appointed has act in the best interests of residents. You should know that by now. How can you stop businesses? If they purchased land on a major hwy. Realistically you have to let them build something on it. If they are going by all the requirements how can it be stopped? Is that not a law suit for Wall? If you go up and down any major hwys. many towns have WAWA, Quick Checks, gas stations and banks that surround homes if they live that close to a major hwy. I am sure you drive on major hwys. that surround towns that have houses close by and you stop for gas, or that cup of coffee for your connivence. This is the reason some respond that Wall has many "snobs" it is called not in my Backyard, but who cares about all the other towns.
Kim February 05, 2012 at 04:00 PM
Of course towns have the right to regulate what types of businesses are permitted in town. But what I have seen is people posting that the reason to deny Wawa is that it won't bring in "educated" people and that Wawa pays minimum wage and that making that kind of money means 'those' employees wouldn't be able to afford to live in Wall. Another is that Wawa gas stations will invite crime to Wall Township. That sounds like snobbery to me. I just don't believe that a business should be turned away because they aren't 'classy' enough for Wall Township. Most businesses will sink or swim based on the need for them in any area. If built the Wawa (or any other business) would have to sustain itself. what we don't need is another empty office complex begging for tenants.
NONEOFYOURBUSINESS February 05, 2012 at 07:49 PM
Some towns do not regulate any businesses. All towns operate different. Yes, some towns do and that is their right to certain extent. The problem might be a law suit if you do not have good reason why not? Or that you allowed others in the town to do it.

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